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GCSE Science - Advanced Apprenticeship

Gematria

Midshipman
Hello, long story short I've been aiming to get onto the Advanced Apprenticeship for a while now and sadly just been informed by my local AFCO that I haven't passed the basic requirements due to not having GCSE Science.

GCSE English - ✔
GCSE Maths - ✔
BTEC Level 3 in Engineering - ✔
GCSE Science - X (Teacher got cancer and had to leave, school couldnt find a replacement so we had a random teacher each time)

I have a GCSE equivalent in Engineering but sadly they wont accept it, the level 3 has a A-level equivalent Physics unit which I passed.
Yet the Navy wont even consider it, Anyone got another solution? Seems stupid to lose £13,000 over a singular GCSE.

EDIT- Just an add on, I actually passed the criteria last year with my predicted grade, failed on my stretched ear of 1mm.
 

soleil

War Hero
Gematria

The GCSE requirement for the Accelerated Apprenticeship is as follows:

A minimum of three GCSEs (or Scottish equivalent) at Grade C (4 on the new grading system) or higher including Maths, English and at least one science based subject.

I'm assuming that you are in touch with one of the Careers Advisors at your local AFCO.

Have you asked him/her whether you could sit a Science subject GCSE this year and have it counted towards the GCSE requirement for this role? If you haven't, ring him/her this afternoon and ask. It may be that the AFCO will need to refer to CNR for advice, but it's still worth asking.

Which is your best science subject, by the way?
 

Gematria

Midshipman
Gematria

The GCSE requirement for the Accelerated Apprenticeship is as follows:

A minimum of three GCSEs (or Scottish equivalent) at Grade C (4 on the new grading system) or higher including Maths, English and at least one science based subject.

I'm assuming that you are in touch with one of the Careers Advisors at your local AFCO.

Have you asked him/her whether you could sit a Science subject GCSE this year and have it counted towards the GCSE requirement for this role? If you haven't, ring him/her this afternoon and ask. It may be that the AFCO will need to refer to CNR for advice, but it's still worth asking.

Which is your best science subject, by the way?


Yeah I have spoken to him and he said that this was possible, the next challenge is trying to find somewhere that I can take the course this year. Most of them started in September so entry is shut until this September.

I've also got an offer to do a degree in September, it was my back up in case I failed the interview stage again. Id still much rather do the AA.

It'd be Physics, my original job choice in school was Theoretical Physicist. Soon realised I liked boats and guns more. Why do you ask?
 

soleil

War Hero
Yeah I have spoken to him and he said that this was possible, the next challenge is trying to find somewhere that I can take the course this year. Most of them started in September so entry is shut until this September.

I've also got an offer to do a degree in September, it was my back up in case I failed the interview stage again. Id still much rather do the AA.

It'd be Physics, my original job choice in school was Theoretical Physicist. Soon realised I liked boats and guns more. Why do you ask?

The reason for the question was to work out whether there was a science in which you were especially strong, in case there was a possibility of applying independently to sit the GCSE with a suitable board and then using online resources and the syllabus to bring yourself up to the required standard before sitting the exam. You say that courses per se aren't starting now until September, but, it may be the case that you could still apply to sit a GCSE this summer and then make a massive effort on the subject.

Which board set the papers for your Maths and English?
 

Gematria

Midshipman
The reason for the question was to work out whether there was a science in which you were especially strong, in case there was a possibility of applying independently to sit the GCSE with a suitable board and then using online resources and the syllabus to bring yourself up to the required standard before sitting the exam. You say that courses per se aren't starting now until September, but, it may be the case that you could still apply to sit a GCSE this summer and then make a massive effort on the subject.

Which board set the papers for your Maths and English?

English - WJEC
Maths - Pearson

That is a very valid point, the only issue is the lack of predicted grade as I wouldn't have a teacher. I wouldn't have an issue self studying.
 

soleil

War Hero
You would have your result by the end of August; at that point, you would be relying on actual results, rather than predicted ones.

Are you still at school or have you recently left school?
 

Gematria

Midshipman
You would have your result by the end of August; at that point, you would be relying on actual results, rather than predicted ones.

Are you still at school or have you recently left school?

I finished college not too long ago, I spoke to my AFCO every few months throughout the whole off college.
Never mentioned I needed a C in Science or I would have retaken it there for free :rolleyes:

In your opinion would it be worth going in the Navy as ETWE, doing my degree with science on the side and applying in 3 years OR would it be best to do this gcse almost by myself?

I know its probably personal preference but I'd like your opinion.
 

soleil

War Hero
The CA at the AFCO is probably the best person to advise, to be honest.

Two questions, though.

Which subject are you thinking of doing a degree in?

Do you know the teacher at your college who teaches Physics? Do you get on well with him/her?
 

Gematria

Midshipman
The CA at the AFCO is probably the best person to advise, to be honest.

Two questions, though.

Which subject are you thinking of doing a degree in?

Do you know the teacher at your college who teaches Physics? Do you get on well with him/her?

1.) I have been accepted to do a Computer Science with Software Engineering

2.) Yes I do but we are far from getting along, I had to deal with him throughout my Physics unit.
The Biology Teacher and head of the department gets along with me very well though. Think it would be best to contact him to see if he does private tuition?
 

soleil

War Hero
I have been accepted to do a Computer Science with Software Engineering

Gematria

Have you spoken to your Careers Advisor on the subject of whether a degree in this particular subject, added to the qualifications you already have, would allow you to consider applying as a Weapon Engineer Officer?

I'm aware that there are several possibilities open to you at this juncture and I wonder whether arranging an appointment with one of the Careers Advisors for a one-to-one discussion about your options is the way forward.
 

Gematria

Midshipman
I wonder whether the Uni is in a region covered by a University Royal Naval Unit. Where are you hoping to go to?

Thank you for all the help, I will contact my CA today to try and get a time slot.

I got the offer from Hull Uni, I believe they covered but when i asked about this to the CA he dodged questions and changed subject. I have no idea how id get in nor what that would mean once my degree is complete. Would I still be able to apply for the AA?

If you don't mind me asking Soleil, are you a Careers Advisor?
 

soleil

War Hero
I got the offer from Hull Uni, I believe they covered but when i asked about this to the CA he dodged questions and changed subject. I have no idea how id get in nor what that would mean once my degree is complete. Would I still be able to apply for the AA?

At Hull, you would be covered by the Yorkshire Universities Royal Navy Unit, Gematria. The Unit's ship is HMS Explorer:


They go to all of the Freshers' Fairs at the Universities they cover in Yorkshire, including Hull. I've just been looking at their Facebook page and they seem to have loads of fun!

Yes, you could do your degree and then join the Accelerated Apprenticeship Scheme (if you have added that missing GCSE). The one thing I would say to you would be to also discuss the possibility of applying for WEO - your subject matter could well be of particular interest - when you think about the systems which underpin the functioning of a modern warship, especially its weapons systems, you can understand why. Check with the CA that you would have the educational requirement for WEO if it appeals to you.


If you would like to ask the Yorkshire Universities Royal Navy Unit about joining, they have a Facebook page and you could message them through that. I think that you would like being in the URNU very much. This link should take you direct to their page but, if it doesn't, search for Yorkshire URNU on Facebook - choose the page with the Crest and 500 likes, not the smaller group showing the White Ensign which is for current members.


If you have the chance to visit any ships beforehand, by the way, do take it; I generally add any ship visits I know about on here.
 
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soleil

War Hero
If you don't mind me asking Soleil, are you a Careers Advisor?

No, my ex is though - he's been in the Royal Navy for many years - I learned an awful lot from him which I try to keep current.

Ninja_Stoker, who posts on Navy Net, was a Careers Advisor in an AFCO until very recently and he's an excellent source of advice for the more complex questions.

What I do is endeavour to answer questions on here when they come up, so that everyone gets a response of some kind with links and encouragement, if needed, to touch base with a CA in an AFCO.
 

Gematria

Midshipman
At Hull, you would be covered by the Yorkshire Universities Royal Navy Unit, Gematria. The Unit's ship is HMS Explorer:


They go to all of the Freshers' Fairs at the Universities they cover in Yorkshire, including Hull. I've just been looking at their Facebook page and they seem to have loads of fun!

Yes, you could do your degree and then join the Accelerated Apprenticeship Scheme (if you have added that missing GCSE). The one thing I would say to you would be to also discuss the possibility of applying for WEO - your subject matter could well be of particular interest - when you think about the systems which underpin the functioning of a modern warship, especially its weapons systems, you can understand why. Check with the CA that you would have the educational requirement for WEO if it appeals to you.


If you would like to ask the Yorkshire Universities Royal Navy Unit about joining, they have a Facebook page and you could message them through that. I think that you would like being in the URNU very much. This link should take you direct to their page but, if it doesn't, search for Yorkshire URNU on Facebook - choose the page with the Crest and 500 likes, not the smaller group showing the White Ensign which is for current members.


If you have the chance to visit any ships beforehand, by the way, do take it; I generally add any ship visits I know about on here.


When I originally wanted to join the Navy I was told to aim for Officer, this was by a family full of Infantry Soldiers though so there main advice was "Dont join the Army."
The one thing that put me off was watching the BRNC training series, where even after passing 95% of the training they can rather get rid or back class you for very little reason.

Seems better to join as a rating and only do 10 weeks basic and then be employed! Since the AA has a higher starting wage it seems like an obvious choice to me! Anything that I've gotten wrong or I've missed on this?

I haven't had a chance to visit a surface fleet ship but I did go on a look at life course at Faslane and visited a sub. That was awsome.

Ill shoot the URNU a message now! :)

Thanks!!!
 
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