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Further MOD hyperbole?

WreckerL

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Life. Those of us who served when guns fired in anger.
That would be in those famous sea battles you took part in during the Korean War. Neglecting the Falklands war, both Gulf Wars and Afghanistan to name a few conflicts since 1953, not forgetting the Malaya Emergency, Indonesian Confrontation, Aden, Northern Ireland.....
 

SONAR-BENDER

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Wreckage - you forgot us valiant (no pun intended!) submariners keeping the sea lanes open during the Cold War...... and no gong! Not even a Blue Nose certificate.
 
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That would be in those famous sea battles you took part in during the Korean War. Neglecting the Falklands war, both Gulf Wars and Afghanistan to name a few conflicts since 1953, not forgetting the Malaya Emergency, Indonesian Confrontation, Aden, Northern Ireland.....
I did actually serve during the Malayan conflict for which I have a Naval GSM with Malaya on it. One wonders just how medals that would be eligible for today. A year or so ago I saw a two badge PO with more medals than my father earned during two world wars plus a naval GSM and a DSM from WW1
Korea was a major war. The others, as nasty as the Falklands was, are Campaigns.
 

Alfacharlie

War Hero
I did actually serve during the Malayan conflict for which I have a Naval GSM with Malaya on it. One wonders just how medals that would be eligible for today. A year or so ago I saw a two badge PO with more medals than my father earned during two world wars plus a naval GSM and a DSM from WW1
Korea was a major war. The others, as nasty as the Falklands was, are Campaigns.
I still don’t get why you have to be such a bellend?
 
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I still don’t get why you have to be such a bellend?
This has enlivened what was becoming a moribund RrumRation. Let's enliven it even further without rancour or personal snides and get it back to what it should be. You refer to bellends. I have no idea of what you are on about. Ccall me a thickhead or dimwit or numbskull and I will accept we served in the same historic Royal navy. Bellend?
 
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This what a Merchant Navy Officer friend of mine remembers of Sasebo...
Cor Sasebo!

I have memories of that den of sailors fun and frolic. As a very young naive Deck Apprentice I sailed on an ancient Shell tanker (Hemiplecta) along the great circle route from Panama to Japan. Mid winter in the North Pacific. NE Force 10 +. Lovely. The deeply laden tanker played submarines all the way and I can only remember the pattern on the inside of the bucket that became my close companion. The deck officers (and me) were in the mid ships accom while the galley was back aft. There were days and days with no access back aft and we lived on condensed milk and cream crackers from the pantry. Not that I had much of the condensed milk.

We arrived in Japan with half a days fuel at Yokohama before shifting to Sasebo to discharge our cargo of 'white oil'.

I vaguely remember that we tied up on a long quayside right behind a US carrier and and we were not allowed on the quay for security reasons. But as it was New Years Eve we were allowed to go by boat across the harbour (!? I cannot remember exactly) to a row of shacks behind the shore line. They were, of course bars (and brothels?).

As a young sprog of a lad I wasnt used to drinking. Anyway our Ships Master (a taciturn Norge ex RN wartime RN) didnt allow us Deck Apprentices access to booze.

So back to Sasebo - I accompanied the junior engineers into a bar where I started drinking beer, I was later told that I moved on to the strong stuff - I dont remember.

I do remember the start of that evening though as I quickly became the best of mates with a young Yank sailor from the southern states. And thats it.

I woke up the following day on my bunk with a screaming head and a bunch of sprightly engineers laughing their heads off at me. I had been 'blooded'. Not only had my wallet been taken but, according to them, so had something else! Loss of cherry and I didnt remember a thing. Luckily penicillin was not required - if it was ever needed in the first place.

Being on a tanker where we worked 6 + hours on, - 6 hours off cargo watches that was my first and last run ashore during six months of tramping the Far East.

When I came home I broke my indentures and left Shell. A 12 month voyage with only 2/3 runs ashore! Life was, and is, too short.

I became a longshore bum on the Thames instead - and loved it.
 

Alfacharlie

War Hero
This what a Merchant Navy Officer friend of mine remembers of Sasebo...
Cor Sasebo!

I have memories of that den of sailors fun and frolic. As a very young naive Deck Apprentice I sailed on an ancient Shell tanker (Hemiplecta) along the great circle route from Panama to Japan. Mid winter in the North Pacific. NE Force 10 +. Lovely. The deeply laden tanker played submarines all the way and I can only remember the pattern on the inside of the bucket that became my close companion. The deck officers (and me) were in the mid ships accom while the galley was back aft. There were days and days with no access back aft and we lived on condensed milk and cream crackers from the pantry. Not that I had much of the condensed milk.

We arrived in Japan with half a days fuel at Yokohama before shifting to Sasebo to discharge our cargo of 'white oil'.

I vaguely remember that we tied up on a long quayside right behind a US carrier and and we were not allowed on the quay for security reasons. But as it was New Years Eve we were allowed to go by boat across the harbour (!? I cannot remember exactly) to a row of shacks behind the shore line. They were, of course bars (and brothels?).

As a young sprog of a lad I wasnt used to drinking. Anyway our Ships Master (a taciturn Norge ex RN wartime RN) didnt allow us Deck Apprentices access to booze.

So back to Sasebo - I accompanied the junior engineers into a bar where I started drinking beer, I was later told that I moved on to the strong stuff - I dont remember.

I do remember the start of that evening though as I quickly became the best of mates with a young Yank sailor from the southern states. And thats it.

I woke up the following day on my bunk with a screaming head and a bunch of sprightly engineers laughing their heads off at me. I had been 'blooded'. Not only had my wallet been taken but, according to them, so had something else! Loss of cherry and I didnt remember a thing. Luckily penicillin was not required - if it was ever needed in the first place.

Being on a tanker where we worked 6 + hours on, - 6 hours off cargo watches that was my first and last run ashore during six months of tramping the Far East.

When I came home I broke my indentures and left Shell. A 12 month voyage with only 2/3 runs ashore! Life was, and is, too short.

I became a longshore bum on the Thames instead - and loved it.
Cool story bro.
 
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Deleted 103788

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Cool story bro.
Bloody hell it gets more childish. "Cool story bro" does that emanate from an adult ex or serving matelot.
No wonder Navy Net is in the" Slough of Despond" if Rum Ration has been reduced to such trivia
 

WreckerL

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Bloody hell it gets more childish. "Cool story bro" does that emanate from an adult ex or serving matelot.
No wonder Navy Net is in the" Slough of Despond" if Rum Ration has been reduced to such trivia
You mentioned no rancour or snide remarks, so stop doing it yourself and trying to project yourself as some erudite intellectual superior.
 

WreckerL

War Hero
Super Moderator
I did actually serve during the Malayan conflict for which I have a Naval GSM with Malaya on it. One wonders just how medals that would be eligible for today. A year or so ago I saw a two badge PO with more medals than my father earned during two world wars plus a naval GSM and a DSM from WW1
Korea was a major war. The others, as nasty as the Falklands was, are Campaigns.
When hot metal is heading in your direction it doesn't play semantics with whether it's a "war" or a "campaign" . Your comments do a disservice to those killed and injured in "campaigns"

If you'd bothered to check your fathers medals the ones that aren't war medals will be campaign medals.

Research what your talking about before transmitting.
 
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When hot metal is heading in your direction it doesn't play semantics with whether it's a "war" or a "campaign" . Your comments do a disservice to those killed and injured in "campaigns"

If you'd bothered to check your fathers medals the ones that aren't war medals will be campaign medals.

Research what your talking about before transmitting.
Reaearch what i am talkinhg about?
I lived through it.
You didn't ,through no fault of yours ,but I did, A former Captain of mine wrote He has a "refreshing outspokenness." I suspect he meant -- A cheeky bugger -- I still am.
 

Alfacharlie

War Hero
Reaearch what i am talkinhg about?
I lived through it.
You didn't ,through no fault of yours ,but I did, A former Captain of mine wrote He has a "refreshing outspokenness." I suspect he meant -- A cheeky bugger -- I still am.
May have been a polite way of saying, ‘you’re a bellend’? Who knows??

#justsayingbellend
 
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Deleted 103788

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When hot metal is heading in your direction it doesn't play semantics with whether it's a "war" or a "campaign" . Your comments do a disservice to those killed and injured in "campaigns"

If you'd bothered to check your fathers medals the ones that aren't war medals will be campaign medals.

Research what your talking about before transmitting.
Thank you for explaining. It's interesting at this time as MOD et al are considering some sort of recognition for those of us who were guinea pigs for the first Thermo Nuclear megaton bomb at Christmas Island, The British government is the last of the participating nations to admit the dangers we were exposed to. They have already initiated some sort of compensation ,but many a meeting has been held at great expense as to whether one of these new-fangled medals should be awarded to the few of us left. They can keep mine for what it's worth!!
 

WreckerL

War Hero
Super Moderator
Reaearch what i am talkinhg about?
I lived through it.
You didn't ,through no fault of yours ,but I did, A former Captain of mine wrote He has a "refreshing outspokenness." I suspect he meant -- A cheeky bugger -- I still am.
Your attitude to those who participated in subsequent campaigns still stinks. I think AC's description of you is quite apt.

I'll be generous to you and put your inane, inflammatory, ramblings down to getting your brain fried in the nuclear tests.
 
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