Friday 13th Tie?

Hi Damien, my inquiries elsewhere on your behalf resulted in these responses (names also removed):

<<...Believe to qualify was to dive on Friday the 13th at 1300 but definitely not below max safe depth. There is a photo somewhere of Osiris doing this and someone snapped a shot as they passed through 130 feet...>>

<<...Yes. This was an Osiris thing. As has been said you had to have dived on Friday 13th to qualify for the tie. On one occasion when I was onboard during an exercise in the channel the Skipper...reported that we had to surface for a short period...We dived a couple of minutes after surfacing so all those onboard who were not already qualified could get their S13 tie...>>

From another site, I have removed the posters name.

I was on Osiris 1st commission. We did our 1st deep dive on Friday 13th. The ship's company was asked to design a tie to commemorate the occasion. My design was selected. I've still got mine
BZ @janner - Wiki indicates that HMS OSIRIS was commissioned on 11 January 1964. During that year Friday 13th fell during both March & November but, of those two Fri 13th March '64 date looks like 'a best fit'...

Unless her very first deep dive was completed shortly before commissioning during Contractors Sea Trials: In that case it could have been a couple of months earlier - on Friday December 13, 1963, that being the only "Fri 13th" throughout the whole of 1963.

Perhaps @janner's contact could kindly clarify the inaugural Tie date (for the OP/Record)


 
Hi Damien, my inquiries elsewhere on your behalf resulted in these responses (names also removed):

<<...Believe to qualify was to dive on Friday the 13th at 1300 but definitely not below max safe depth. There is a photo somewhere of Osiris doing this and someone snapped a shot as they passed through 130 feet...>>

<<...Yes. This was an Osiris thing. As has been said you had to have dived on Friday 13th to qualify for the tie. On one occasion when I was onboard during an exercise in the channel the Skipper...reported that we had to surface for a short period...We dived a couple of minutes after surfacing so all those onboard who were not already qualified could get their S13 tie...>>


BZ @janner - Wiki indicates that HMS OSIRIS was commissioned on 11 January 1964. During that year Friday 13th fell during both March & November but, of those two Fri 13th March '64 date looks like 'a best fit'...

Unless her very first deep dive was completed shortly before commissioning during Contractors Sea Trials: In that case it could have been a couple of months earlier - on Friday December 13, 1963, that being the only "Fri 13th" throughout the whole of 1963.

Perhaps @janner's contact could kindly clarify the inaugural Tie date (for the OP/Record)


Gent's,
Thanks fro all taking the time to help answer my question. I think this amswers the question of the tie. This adds detail to my fathers navy service.
Thanks again.
Damien
 

janner

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It looks as though this could have been a regular thing at 1300 hours on the 13th going to a depth of 130 feet which wouldn't have been the maximum depth. Certainly in reply to my post elsewhere there is a mention of other dives. I've reposted asking if there is any further information
 

Salty-Dog

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From the link @ post #8:-

Retired submariner Mo Morrison told BBC News: "HMS submarine Osiris had the pennant number S13 and we had a tradition of diving on Friday the 13th at 1313 down to 130 ft where we would remain for 13 minutes before surfacing."
 
Gent's pnce again thanks for the info, this has made my mother very happy as we now have some info ref his service.
Next question, if i may? his first ship was HMS Solebay, June 60 to Mach 61. I see there was a little run in with HMS Trafalgar in 1961, but can't find a date? Anyone know.....the fact my father has never mentioned it makes me think it was after he left the ship?
 

WreckerL

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Gent's pnce again thanks for the info, this has made my mother very happy as we now have some info ref his service.
Next question, if i may? his first ship was HMS Solebay, June 60 to Mach 61. I see there was a little run in with HMS Trafalgar in 1961, but can't find a date? Anyone know.....the fact my father has never mentioned it makes me think it was after he left the ship?
Wiki has this

In 1958, Trafalgar emerged from a refit, was commissioned and became the leader of the 7th Destroyer Squadron, having spells with the Home and Mediterranean Fleets.[3] Just prior to her return to the UK in 1961 she was accidentally rammed by her sister-ship Solebay, Captain(D) 1st Destroyer Squadron, thus delaying her return to the UK. In 1962, Trafalgar along with ships of the squadron, sailed for the Mediterranean for the last time, performing a number of naval exercises, as well as fly-the-flag visits.

I can find plenty of references to Solebay's collision with Trafalgar but not the exact date.
 
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Salty-Dog

War Hero
This gives you a brief idea of the time period ( before November 1961)


There is also an HMS Solebay Association:

According to:

Trafalgar was in Malta in April prior to Exercise Meflex Invicta.

Hope this helps.
 
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Wiki has this

In 1958, Trafalgar emerged from a refit, was commissioned and became the leader of the 7th Destroyer Squadron, having spells with the Home and Mediterranean Fleets.[3] Just prior to her return to the UK in 1961 she was accidentally rammed by her sister-ship Solebay, Captain(D) 1st Destroyer Squadron, thus delaying her return to the UK. In 1962, Trafalgar along with ships of the squadron, sailed for the Mediterranean for the last time, performing a number of naval exercises, as well as fly-the-flag visits.

I can find plenty of references to Solebay's collision with Trafalgar but not the exact date.
Thanks for looking....a exact date would be good.....
just going through some old photos of my fathers...look what I just found! We know he was on Solebay, what are the chances of him taking a pic of Trafalgar!
 

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WreckerL

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On the IWM page there's a photo of them all in Sliema Creek, photo is dated 3rd of March 1961 so that may narrow it down a bit.
 

Salty-Dog

War Hero
Sorry, going around in circles on this one. Have read that both ships required dockyard attention. Solebay is listed as escorting the Greek Royal Family in Corfu before returning to UK in November 1961.
Trafalgar is reported to have delayed the 7 th Destroyer Squadron's return until after Christmas.
Confused.
 
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