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Frank advice required - submarine logistics officer role

Ninja_Stoker

War Hero
Moderator
It maybe worth scanning your Engineering Degree certificate & emailing it to you AFCO to get it checked-out with regard it being a suitably accredited degree. In some cases a degree in physics maybe accepted, for example, so it maybe worth a shot - there's a £12K 'Golden Hello' for engineering grads & engineering officers can become Training Management Officers...
 

Orpheus

Newbie
Drebin, don't be too flattered, I'm a serial stalker!

Part of my asking on this forum was to try and help the decision-making process along, there is only so much you can get out of the careers advisers and bumph.

Yes, you are correct in thinking that insofar as the Navy route goes - I am picking logistics as it is the only route still open. Not to say that I wouldn't find it interesting, but in all honesty I would have chosen Warfare Officer if the age wasn't an issue. Sometimes we can't have exactly what we want sadly!

I wanted to try and find out if there was any chance of having a varied career as a Loggie, but it seems a little unlikely judging from the feedback so far!

Ninja_Stoker, thanks, although unfortunately nothing quite so useful as a physics, my engineering degree is Audio Engineering, and whilst certainly a good quarter is physics and maths, certainly not to the same standard as a dedicated degree in either!
 

burnsy85

Lantern Swinger
Orpheus said:
Drebin, don't be too flattered, I'm a serial stalker!

Part of my asking on this forum was to try and help the decision-making process along, there is only so much you can get out of the careers advisers and bumph.

Yes, you are correct in thinking that insofar as the Navy route goes - I am picking logistics as it is the only route still open. Not to say that I wouldn't find it interesting, but in all honesty I would have chosen Warfare Officer if the age wasn't an issue. Sometimes we can't have exactly what we want sadly!

I wanted to try and find out if there was any chance of having a varied career as a Loggie, but it seems a little unlikely judging from the feedback so far!

Ninja_Stoker, thanks, although unfortunately nothing quite so useful as a physics, my engineering degree is Audio Engineering, and whilst certainly a good quarter is physics and maths, certainly not to the same standard as a dedicated degree in either!
how old are you now
 

frizz83

Newbie
Hey Orpheus,
I'm currently applying to join as a logistics officer(passed my pjft today!) too old for warfare :( , i went into the careers office the other day to ask about the submarine logistics officer role, to cut a long story short it sounds pretty tough. You are away for 3 months at a time "counting beans" with no contact with the outside world and as the fella put it, "you get to travel the world not see it!".
I don't think you can transfer between roles once your in either, although i may be wrong?
 

IB08

Lantern Swinger
Stirling, if you seriously think that the army is GENERALLY less physically demanding than the RN then fair enough. Although I dont know where you get your ideas from. Unless orpheus does amazingly well at RMAS or has good connections, he wont go to a teeth arm. Submarines are probably better for an older bloke, they go away for shorter periods of time and are much better paid. They are also likely to be based out of one location for most of their careers. This may be a good thing for blokes with wife and kids etc. No knowing orpheus' personal situation of course, I dont know whether or not this would appeal to him.
 

Stirling

Banned
IB08 said:
Stirling, if you seriously think that the army is GENERALLY less physically demanding than the RN then fair enough. Although I dont know where you get your ideas from. Unless orpheus does amazingly well at RMAS or has good connections, he wont go to a teeth arm. Submarines are probably better for an older bloke, they go away for shorter periods of time and are much better paid. They are also likely to be based out of one location for most of their careers. This may be a good thing for blokes with wife and kids etc. No knowing orpheus' personal situation of course, I dont know whether or not this would appeal to him.

Yes but you stated this.....

'Another point of note is that the RN arent really into phys as much as the army.'

Which, like I said is total bollox.

WHEN you join the RN proper and not the part timers then you MAY have an insight into the phys side of naval training, life, until such time I SUGGEST you STFU.
 

Orpheus

Newbie
burnsy85 - I'm 26 and 1 month.

frizz83 - thanks for the heads up, I read somewhere you can't transfer between roles, or at least, should never expect to be able to. I'm not too concerned about being away for months at a time, I've been an expat for most of my life - I'm used to being away from friends and family, so that part probably won't be a problem.

JonnoJonno - Audio Engineering is......audio engineering, I can't really break it down further than that, it is different from acoustical engineering, but it is not an offshoot, they are different fruit, but you'd find them in the same basket.
 
Right, there had been an awful lot of bollocks spouted on this thread.

Being a LO(SM) is not a career path, you will do one job at sea, and maybe (R maybe) one or two jobs alongside supporting the SM Service. RN Loggies are working in Afg in crunchy roles (the new Deputy Commander of 102 Log Bde is a Loggie Capt RN), and some work alongside RM in 3 Cdo Bde and Commando Log's Regiment. There is an opportunity for any person in the UK Armed Forces to apply for the AACC, and you do not have to have a job to go into afterwards. In summary, being a LO could open up a lot of roles, but you need to want to do the job otherwise it could v v dull.

In the Army, there a far more 'crunchy' jobs that are available to you - I suggest you go to the Officer Forum on Arrse, and specifically the thread entitled 'commision at 26 and you lack commitment', for some good info (especially regarding older Inf Officers). I appreciate you are overseas, but if you can get back to the UK for some visits, you will be in a far better position to make a choice about your career. I would also suggest roles in the RA, RE and RLC, all of whom have roles that involve opportunities slightly out of the 'norm'.

Hope this helps a little more,

Al

*Edit to add - you are aware that there is no such thing as a promise that you will serve as a LO(SM)? You can volunteer, but it is dependent upon there being space in the appointing plot. There is also a need for a medical etc, which you need to pass. Any ENT or CV problems and you may be on a sticky wicket.
 
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