Navy Net - Royal Navy Community

Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

Foreign travel whilst on leave/holidays

alexissonice

Badgeman
I'm not sure if this has been covered anywhere. My apologise if it has.
I'm a keen diver and general outdoor enthusiast am known to like to swan off too far corners of the Far East (Malaysia, Philippines etc) on any time off I have to do some diving or caving or anything pulse raising. I'm just curious how foreign travel works in the Navy when it comes to taking leave. I understand that an application to leave the country has to be submitted and approved etc, but what are the restrictions I'm going to encounter (ie. what countries are off limits to service personnel) and if anyone who has travelled far and wide on their holidays while serving has any advice on important perquisites to any foreign travel while on leave (insurance and worse case scenarios) ...

Thanks kindly :)
 
Last edited:

Waspie

War Hero
There was, don't know if it still exists, a list which informs you which foreign countries you may go to without permission and those you do require permission or at least to notify those in charge where you are pooling off to. The list is updated as the political and world climate dictates!

Also, there may be issues with adrenalin rush activities. The Navy wouldn't want to lose one of its finest because they like to throw themselves off tall buildings or dive into big dark holes!!! So you would need to check.
 
G

guestm

Guest
You're good as long as you're not going to a CSSRA. (Countries to which special security restrictions apply) these countries are restricted so even though I have them in front of me I can't say on here, but your UPO or Int cell will hold details.

Most of them are obvious. So if you think there may be a snag, there probably is.

Check anyway.

Edited to add: FCO advice should always be checked in addition to CSSRA. Not instead of. I've found that out to my cost in the past.
 
Last edited by a moderator:

scouse

War Hero
Told me I couldn't go to Macau, from Hong Kong. after I had already spent a weekend racing there, only stamp I ever had in my passport ;-P
 

alexissonice

Badgeman
"The foreign office advises against all essential travel to Islands of Sabah,Malaysia"

Ball-acher!

I wonder why all the exciting places in the world go hand in hand with nutty terrorist organisations and fanatics? Why can't they just get over themselves and let us crack on?
 

Waspie

War Hero
What you have to consider is the RN will take you to places many folk on the planet will only dream about. So it can be horses for courses.
 
G

guestm

Guest
"The foreign office advises against all essential travel to Islands of Sabah,Malaysia"

Ball-acher!

I wonder why all the exciting places in the world go hand in hand with nutty terrorist organisations and fanatics? Why can't they just get over themselves and let us crack on?

I ask myself the same question. I'm waiting for bandits to stop kidnapping people in the Darian Gap so I can travel from Punta Arenas to Anchorage in a oner.
 

alexissonice

Badgeman
You're good as long as you're not going to a CSSRA. (Countries to which special security restrictions apply) these countries are restricted so even though I have them in front of me I can't say on here, but your UPO or Int cell will hold details.

Most of them are obvious. So if you think there may be a snag, there probably is.

Check anyway.

Edited to add: FCO advice should always be checked in addition to CSSRA. Not instead of. I've found that out to my cost in the past.

South East Asia has quite an established backpacker / tourist agenda so I'm hoping that's guna be alright in most tourist areas. Sure it will (for the time being anyway!) ..but how does the leave usually work?..is it that once you leave its fixed as per the ships schedule and all approved that it's then concrete or is there always the possibility that your ship may need to deploy in an emergency whereby you would always need to make precautions (insurance) to make sure you can get back in short notice?
 
G

guestm

Guest
South East Asia has quite an established backpacker / tourist agenda so I'm hoping that's guna be alright in most tourist areas. Sure it will (for the time being anyway!) ..but how does the leave usually work?..is it that once you leave its fixed as per the ships schedule and all approved that it's then concrete or is there always the possibility that your ship may need to deploy in an emergency whereby you would always need to make precautions (insurance) to make sure you can get back in short notice?

You'd be surprised ref SE Asia. What's regarded as safe for civilians is not always so for Forces personnel in the eyes of our masters.

You are always liable for recall and should always get travel insurance in case you have to cancel. You input your contact details for that period when you submit your leave.

As long as you don't just switch your phone off and make every attempt to return if recalled. All is good. However, what would life be without the odd gamble?
 
G

guestm

Guest
I should probably add: even if a country is listed as CSSRA that doesn't necessarily mean you can't go, just that you must inform your chain of command and possibly attend a brief or two.

Obviously if it's Somalia or Afghanistan you're going to get told to **** off.
 

alexissonice

Badgeman
I should probably add: even if a country is listed as CSSRA that doesn't necessarily mean you can't go, just that you must inform your chain of command and possibly attend a brief or two.

Obviously if it's Somalia or Afghanistan you're going to get told to **** off.

I was just thinking about this. My dad is originally from Egypt, emigrated decades ago to practise medicine here in the UK (my mums british) but he's got lots of family out there in quite a rural area (which sadly is an area which is known to have Muslim brotherhood sympathisers). None of the family out there are aware of my future profession and I don't believe there is any plans to reveal that I am joining the forces due to the risks...it's a shame but it's a cruel reality. I'm hoping that the situation does not escalate so far that I'm am unable to visit them out there still. I hoping it hasn't already!
 
G

guestm

Guest
Maybe next time you visit you'll be armed and accompanied by a whole bunch of NATO pals.

That would be an interesting reunion.
 

adro1001

Midshipman
MOD Edit

The internet isn't really the place to post Restricted info. I suggest that you pay more attention in the briefs you're given at Raleigh.
 
Last edited by a moderator:

adro1001

Midshipman
What a way to grief a Geordie who was just trying to help. Cheers

Posted from the Navy Net mobile app (Android / iOS)
 

ElQuesoGrande

Lantern Swinger
Also, if you are a member of certain branches/work in certain locations or government departments/have certain clearances above DV, then there are further restrictions on where you can and can't go.
 
Thread starter Similar threads Forum Replies Date
MoD_RSS Spain travel advice: Foreign Office statement, 18 March 2020 MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Travel Advice: Foreign Secretary Statement, 17 March 2020 MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Foreign Office statement: Spain Travel Advice MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Coronavirus and travel to China: Foreign Secretary's statement, 4 February 2020 MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Foreign Secretary statement on updated travel advice for Iran MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Foreign Secretary statement on updated travel advice. MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Foreign Secretary underlines UK commitment to NATO MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Foreign Secretary statement following the sentencing of three Hong Kong activists MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Foreign Secretary statement on Official Development Assistance (November 2020) MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Foreign Secretary statement following a meeting with the Ethiopian Deputy Prime Minister MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Foreign Secretary call with Kenyan President Uhuru Kenyatta: November 24 MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Foreign Secretary marks 25th Anniversary of peace in Bosnia and Herzegovina MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Israeli and Palestinian cooperation: Foreign Secretary statement MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Foreign flagged ships detained in the UK during October 2020 MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Foreign Secretary's call with Arancha González-Laya, 12 November 2020 MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Foreign Secretary's call with Luigi Di Maio, 12 November 2020 MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Foreign Secretary declares breach of Sino-British Joint Declaration MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Foreign Secretary statement on the expulsion of pro-democracy legislators in Hong Kong MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Expulsion of two British diplomats from Belarus: Foreign Secretary statement MoD News 0
MoD_RSS New Office for Investment to drive foreign investment into the UK MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Foreign Secretary statement on US Presidential Election MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Foreign Secretary statement on Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Foreign Secretary statement following earthquake in the Aegean Sea MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Foreign Secretary statement following attack in Nice MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Foreign Secretary statement on normalisation of Israel and Sudan relations MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Foreign Secretary statement on protests in Nigeria MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Foreign Secretary meets Indonesian Foreign Minister Retno in London MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Foreign flagged ships detained in the UK during September 2020 MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Foreign Secretary’s speech to United Nations General Assembly 2020 MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Foreign Secretary's meeting with Foreign Minister Minh of Vietnam, 30 September MoD News 0
MoD_RSS ASEAN Chairman's statement of the open-ended Troika virtual meeting between ASEAN Foreign Ministers and the Foreign Secretary MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Foreign Secretary visits South Korea and Vietnam pledging to work together in virus fight MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Readout from Foreign Secretary meeting with Foreign Minister Kang of South Korea in Seoul MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Foreign Secretary statement on the death of the Amir of Kuwait MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Nagorno-Karabakh violence: UK and Canada Foreign Ministers' joint statement MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Foreign Secretary's statement on Belarus: 24 September 2020 MoD News 0
MoD_RSS E3 Foreign Ministers' Statement: 20 September 2020 MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Foreign Secretary's 2020 Rosh Hashanah message MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Yemen has “never looked more likely to slide into famine”, Foreign Secretary warns MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Foreign Secretary statement in Washington DC, 16 September 2020 MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Foreign flagged ships detained in the UK during August 2020 MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Russia: G7 Foreign Ministers' statement on Navalny poisoning MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Readout of Foreign Secretary call with Heiko Maas MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Readout of PM & Foreign Secretary meeting with Jared Kushner MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Foreign Secretary statement on Alexey Navalny MoD News 0
MoD_RSS New Foreign, Commonwealth & Development Office will lead global action to ensure world’s poorest are protected from ravages of coronavirus and famine MoD News 0
U Quick question about paying off foreign RFA 2
MoD_RSS Foreign Secretary commits to more effective and accountable aid spending under new Foreign, Commonwealth and Development Office MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Foreign Secretary statement on Prime Minister Abe stepping down MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Foreign Secretary to host Canada’s Foreign Minister at Hampton Court Palace MoD News 0
Similar threads


















































Latest Threads

Top