Foreign travel whilst on leave/holidays

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  1. alexissonice

    alexissonice Badgeman

    I'm not sure if this has been covered anywhere. My apologise if it has.
    I'm a keen diver and general outdoor enthusiast am known to like to swan off too far corners of the Far East (Malaysia, Philippines etc) on any time off I have to do some diving or caving or anything pulse raising. I'm just curious how foreign travel works in the Navy when it comes to taking leave. I understand that an application to leave the country has to be submitted and approved etc, but what are the restrictions I'm going to encounter (ie. what countries are off limits to service personnel) and if anyone who has travelled far and wide on their holidays while serving has any advice on important perquisites to any foreign travel while on leave (insurance and worse case scenarios) ...

    Thanks kindly :)
    Last edited: Apr 23, 2014
  2. Waspie

    Waspie War Hero

    There was, don't know if it still exists, a list which informs you which foreign countries you may go to without permission and those you do require permission or at least to notify those in charge where you are pooling off to. The list is updated as the political and world climate dictates!

    Also, there may be issues with adrenalin rush activities. The Navy wouldn't want to lose one of its finest because they like to throw themselves off tall buildings or dive into big dark holes!!! So you would need to check.
  3. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

  4. Montigny-La-Palisse

    Montigny-La-Palisse War Hero Moderator

    You're good as long as you're not going to a CSSRA. (Countries to which special security restrictions apply) these countries are restricted so even though I have them in front of me I can't say on here, but your UPO or Int cell will hold details.

    Most of them are obvious. So if you think there may be a snag, there probably is.

    Check anyway.

    Edited to add: FCO advice should always be checked in addition to CSSRA. Not instead of. I've found that out to my cost in the past.
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  5. scouse

    scouse New member

    Told me I couldn't go to Macau, from Hong Kong. after I had already spent a weekend racing there, only stamp I ever had in my passport ;-P
  6. alexissonice

    alexissonice Badgeman

    "The foreign office advises against all essential travel to Islands of Sabah,Malaysia"


    I wonder why all the exciting places in the world go hand in hand with nutty terrorist organisations and fanatics? Why can't they just get over themselves and let us crack on?
  7. Waspie

    Waspie War Hero

    What you have to consider is the RN will take you to places many folk on the planet will only dream about. So it can be horses for courses.
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  8. Montigny-La-Palisse

    Montigny-La-Palisse War Hero Moderator

    I ask myself the same question. I'm waiting for bandits to stop kidnapping people in the Darian Gap so I can travel from Punta Arenas to Anchorage in a oner.
  9. alexissonice

    alexissonice Badgeman

    South East Asia has quite an established backpacker / tourist agenda so I'm hoping that's guna be alright in most tourist areas. Sure it will (for the time being anyway!) ..but how does the leave usually work? it that once you leave its fixed as per the ships schedule and all approved that it's then concrete or is there always the possibility that your ship may need to deploy in an emergency whereby you would always need to make precautions (insurance) to make sure you can get back in short notice?
  10. Montigny-La-Palisse

    Montigny-La-Palisse War Hero Moderator

    You'd be surprised ref SE Asia. What's regarded as safe for civilians is not always so for Forces personnel in the eyes of our masters.

    You are always liable for recall and should always get travel insurance in case you have to cancel. You input your contact details for that period when you submit your leave.

    As long as you don't just switch your phone off and make every attempt to return if recalled. All is good. However, what would life be without the odd gamble?
  11. Montigny-La-Palisse

    Montigny-La-Palisse War Hero Moderator

    I should probably add: even if a country is listed as CSSRA that doesn't necessarily mean you can't go, just that you must inform your chain of command and possibly attend a brief or two.

    Obviously if it's Somalia or Afghanistan you're going to get told to **** off.
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  12. alexissonice

    alexissonice Badgeman

    I was just thinking about this. My dad is originally from Egypt, emigrated decades ago to practise medicine here in the UK (my mums british) but he's got lots of family out there in quite a rural area (which sadly is an area which is known to have Muslim brotherhood sympathisers). None of the family out there are aware of my future profession and I don't believe there is any plans to reveal that I am joining the forces due to the's a shame but it's a cruel reality. I'm hoping that the situation does not escalate so far that I'm am unable to visit them out there still. I hoping it hasn't already!
  13. Montigny-La-Palisse

    Montigny-La-Palisse War Hero Moderator

    Maybe next time you visit you'll be armed and accompanied by a whole bunch of NATO pals.

    That would be an interesting reunion.
  14. alexissonice

    alexissonice Badgeman

    HA! "What did you say you did again?"
  15. adro1001

    adro1001 New member

    MOD Edit

    The internet isn't really the place to post Restricted info. I suggest that you pay more attention in the briefs you're given at Raleigh.
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  16. alexissonice

    alexissonice Badgeman

    MOD Edited.

    Reason: Quoted Adro1001's security faff.
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  17. adro1001

    adro1001 New member

    What a way to grief a Geordie who was just trying to help. Cheers

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  18. alexissonice

    alexissonice Badgeman

    HA! Sorry mate I had no idea! I'd share a can of local brew wit ya on a rubber ring in vang veing any day shipmate!
  19. adro1001

    adro1001 New member

    That'll do me.cheers haha

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  20. ElQuesoGrande

    ElQuesoGrande Badgeman

    Also, if you are a member of certain branches/work in certain locations or government departments/have certain clearances above DV, then there are further restrictions on where you can and can't go.

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