Flying home for Paternity Leave

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  1. Hi, don't know if anyone has been in this situation but my partner leaves for a 7 month deployment tomorrow and has had his leave approved to fly back for the birth of our baby but no one can tell him who pays for the flight home and back again as we're not married.

    Does anyone know? The flight back to re join the ship is going to be quite expensive so it would be good to know sooner rather than later so we can put some money aside.

    Thanks in advance
     
  2. He's probably sorted it out with the staff office GYH(S)
     
  3. That's why officers don't do the coxswains job. I had £8,500 a year budget and NEVER used it up. So I happily sent lads home on the ships budget. Bottom line from the BLI team was it's your budget- use it!

    Depending where you are, why not use Mil Air? Failing that just book Civ Air. Though if you're on a big ship I doubt the CPO (Wtr) or whoever it is will have the same view.

    I am sure there will bore snores that will quote some JSP or DIN or something else equally dull, but I don't care.You have to look after a hard worked and never at home ships company.
     
  4. But if for some reason the OP had to return to the UK for a course or something which happened to be the week before his paternity leave starts.......

    Hey presto, duty trip!!
     
  5. Little bit precious this week are we? It's not all officers, just you and ATG I find you both tedious.
     
  6. Well, thank you.
     
  7. People in staff office normally sort things like this out at 829
    Get you home (Seagoers) flights get them
    Not 100% sure but your partner will sort it out :)
     
  8. Must be a young SD officer sorting it out. A SR could never do that as they can't paraphrase JSP's.
     
  9. I flew back from a Bosnia/Adriatic deployment in Jan96 for the birth of My Son (Ship was on a standoff in Naples at the time) L/Reg sorted it all out for me using the 'Confinement Leave' rules and regulations. Pusser paid for my flight back to the UK and the return to Naples 10 days later (all 1st Class) all I had to pay for was to get myself to Naples Airport and then get from Heathrow to my own home. I know this was 16 years ago and things change but it might well be worth investigating if it's on the Books and you fit the criteria.
     
  10. Guns

    Guns War Hero Moderator

    These days you need 1 or 2 Star approval for civilian flights the days of its your travel budget you spend it have long gone. Also flying home during a deployment for course etc would require some form of Mil AT flight option or an exceptionally good reason why the person wasn't squad rotated prior to departure.

    Its that bad that I needed to fly out of Kuwait due to visa reasons and my business case was submitted to the Head of J8 at PJHQ who argued the toss. In the end I pointed out that if I did not fly out on that date I would be breaking the law and liable to arrest from the policeman who works with me. On top of that delaying the flight to my R&R flight would cost £2500 in fines which I was not going to be paying. All for a £178 flight.

    The days for spending on travel till your hearts content has long gone, especially if you try and purchase out side of the central contract. More importantly if you try and bend the rules you are sailing close to the fraud area of taxpayers spending.

    However there are ways of doing it legally and your partner needs to speak to their Divisional Officer sooner rather than later. If the deployment is close to an AT hub then options get easier. Leaving it to sailing and then just expecting it will never help. Having to explain to one of my department that no they could go home on the birth of their child was not ease. But they had not even let us know that one was on the way and being in the middle of the Indian Ocean heading East was going to complicate matters. He belief that we would task one of the helos to fly him hundreds of miles and then buy him a plane ticket was somewhat misplaced. We did manage to get him off the ship a day early at the next port of call with the advanced team and he got a cheap ticket home.
     
  11. Guns

    Guns War Hero Moderator

    I'm somewhat insulted that your inbuilt dislike of officers doesn't extend to me.
     
  12. Splendid welfare package these days, when I returned from deployment my lad was sporting a full set.
     
  13. Well, that's because you're not a real Officer. You have a white hanky.
     
  14. In the interests of harmony, I'll hate you Guns (just done a compulsory E&D course), I wouldn't want you to think you've been marginalised.
     
  15. My first born was expected in Nov 1972, which put us squarely in Australia. (Fremantle)
    As my first wife had experienced two miscarriages prior to this pregnancy, I applied for compassionate leave to attend the birth.
    **** off was at least a straightforward answer.
    At the beginning of 73 I again applied for compassionate leave to fly to Australia (roll reversal eh?) to attend my brothers funeral.
    **** off seemed a bit harsh but was never the less the answer.
    That I went anyway was a matter of discourse between me and the regulating branch but hey ho.
     
  16. [​IMG] Originally Posted by Guns [​IMG]
    I'm somewhat insulted that your inbuilt dislike of officers doesn't extend to me.

    You don't pick on peoples spelling (despite the poster having O levels in English and English lit), which is kind of arrogant and pathetic. Maybe the poster was just typing fast and didn't proof read it. I imagine you are probably above that. Saying that most people over the age of 12 are too.

    It's not inbuilt, my brother is one, there are just certain pricks that from the weirdroom that bore the piss out of me. Comments which they reply to, which actually have no foundation or substance, grate me.


    You're not really, I just came out with the line to placate you. To be honest wish I hadn't bothered as you just seem to lurk around me making things dull.

    PS Can't be chewed to proof read this one, so get out your OED and crack on.
     
  17. Guns

    Guns War Hero Moderator

    Arh bless you.
     
  18. If it makes you feel better I hate you as well you white bastard racist. And don't go givin me you likes us bruvvas it dont make no never minds, you is still white.
    Could you lend me a shilling for a cup of tea boss.
     
  19. We hate your sort cos you fall asleep in the getaway car.
     
  20. I've seen you, and you don't look altogether white to me.
    You been around that tar brush Stirl.?
     
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