Navy Net - Royal Navy Community

This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

Failed Royal Navy Eye Test | CIS


I have my second eye test for the RN on Monday after failing the first one. I was told to bring both my contact lenses and my glasses, but forgot to bring my contacts to the eye test. My doctor said it's alright to proceed with just my glasses on, so we went ahead with it. I was told I didn't meet any of the VA3 standards and that I did not pass it.

I asked my AFCO what are my options, and he informed me I could go for the eye test a second time - but I know it's pretty much useless as I have really poor vision without my contacts or glasses. Anyhow, I've booked it.

It says "visual acuity to be achieved for VA3 without correcting lenses: 6/60" - exactly how strong is this? Is good, unaided vision needed in every role? I'm going for CIS, by the way.

In the notes, my optician put "distance unaided right eye and left eye: N5 <6/120 (for both)" - I'm guessing this is way below the minimum requirement? I just feel extremely disheartened, discouraged and 'empty' having passed the psychometric exam and the interview and knowing my RN career could be over before it's begun because I couldn't pass an eye test.

Here's my specific results if anybody wants to take a look, maybe tell me how far off I was.

Many thanks.
Last edited:


Lantern Swinger
I'm sorry to hear this fella and it's a shame because I read your other thread and you did make a considerable effort to get in so nope it goes well

Even though I can't help there is a guy here called angry doc (I'm sure) maybe if you pm him he can shed some light on how your results look

I'm an ex po(CIS) who saw the light over 2 years ago


War Hero
For entry into the Naval Service, your corrected & uncorrected vision must meet the standard for your branch. The lowest acceptable standard for entry is this branches that accept Visual Acuity standard 3 - Logistics, ETME/WE or Medical branches.

In the event you are outside the accepted parameters - other services apply different standards. It may also be worth having a chat with the RFA occupational health experts also.

Good luck.


Lantern Swinger
6/120 is the standard below that is acceptable for RN Service, so sadly you seem to be outside that.
NS has good advice though by suggesting the RFA who do have differing limits.


Lantern Swinger
It wouldn't surprise me if the VA standard for CIS hasn't changed since the days of ROs and then OM(C)s with their requirement to be visual signalmen. I expect the standard could have been reduced in the days of NBPCP in 2006ish when CIS was born and we lost the V/S requirement.

Probably due another review since 1 Apr this year when we became ET(WE)(CIS) - will be interesting to see if we align with the other streams of WE or CIS stream retains the higher VA requirement. I'd like to hear the reason why if we remain on the higher one.

For the OP - sorry to hear of your situation, I can only imagine how disappointed you must be. I'm sure there are other possibilities open to you.

Not sure, but I wonder if a person could have laser eye surgery to bring them into the acceptable standards for entry?


War Hero
ET(WE) CIS has the same recruit test score, Colour Perception grade & VA standard as RO, OM(C), CIS or whatever they are called next week.

ET(WE) retains a higher recruit test score but lower Colour Perception grade & VA standard. The anomally is known about & the fact that they could feasibly become interchangeable after Leading Rates qualifying course.

My guess is subject to the pass/fail rate on phase two, the wider parameters may eventually apply equally to both. For the OP however, anything below VA 3 rules out the RN regardless of recruit test score or branch.

The rules for laser surgery are complex but the person must be over age 22, the pre-operative prescription must be VA3 or better & certain types of procedure are an outright bar. Written details available upon request via the AFCO.


Thanks for your help, seems to be nothing I can do. I'm going to contact my AFCO tomorrow and find out my options. I'm not sure the exact policies on laser surgery except for what was given above by Ninja_Stoker, but I'll find out more information tomorrow and what my options are regarding that.

If I find out I can have laser surgery after meeting certain criteria and I have to wait a few more years, then so be it. I want nothing more and I'd happily wait the extra years if it meant having a career in the naval service.

If this doesn't work out, then perhaps I'll try the police or even the French Foreign Legion - just considering it, need a whole lot of more information and I'm not in a position to make a career choice just yet.

Thanks so much for your guys' help and I wish you all the best of luck in whatever you're doing.



War Hero
I can't help you with your snags, but my missus had laser eye surgery 10 years ago and it was one of the best things she ever did.

Her prescription was +5 in both eyes. I'm not entirely sure what that means, but she was very blind. Without her glasses she couldn't tell who a person was from about 10ft away.

She finally plucked up the courage to go for it and went for the best procedure on the market at the time (Ultralase LASEK or LASIK or something). She got it on interest free credit and the monthly payments were actually less than she was spending on disposable contact lenses.

30 minutes in the surgery and it was done. 10 years later she still has perfect "better than 20/20 vision." She had to use eyedrops for a few weeks after the procedure and avoid swimming, but otherwise no downsides whatsoever.

Absolute no brainer, it will change your life.
Thread starter Similar threads Forum Replies Date
B Failed Vetting Joining Up - Royal Navy Recruiting 8
MoD_RSS AAIB Report: DJI M600 Pro, UAS failed to follow controller inputs MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Inquiry finds mismanagement at charity that funded failed film project MoD News 0
S failed medical paper review Joining the Royal Navy 4
A Failed medical Joining the Royal Navy 2
MoD_RSS Inspection Report Published: A reinspection into failed right of abode applications and referral for consideration for enforcement action MoD News 0
S Failed AIB - 12 months wait to retry Joining Up - Royal Navy Recruiting 19
C Failed recruitment eye test Joining the Royal Navy 1
MoD_RSS Disqualified restaurateurs failed to pay £4 million in taxes MoD News 0
A Failed AIB - Considering Rating route Joining Up - Royal Navy Recruiting 5
R Failed eye test for rn RFA 6
B failed medical Joining Up - Royal Navy Recruiting 4
MoD_RSS Press release: Trustees failed to protect charity from abuse for terrorist purposes, regulator finds MoD News 0
Kiwi33 Re Join question. Failed Diver trying something different. Joining the Royal Navy 2
S Failed the vetting but could not get in touch with my AFCO. Joining Up - Royal Navy Recruiting 2
Q Failed eye test - what to do next? Joining the Royal Navy 7
MoD_RSS Press release: Inquiry into Save the Needy Worldwide finds trustees failed to protect charity funds MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Press release: Bosses banned for removing £700k from failed caravan company MoD News 0
TheMau5e Failed AIB entry for warfare Joining Up - Royal Navy Recruiting 4
MoD_RSS Press release: Court throws book at printers who failed to complete contracts MoD News 0
B Failed first PJFT Joining the Royal Navy 18
MoD_RSS Press release: Jail for travel agent who failed to explain missing thousands MoD News 0
R Failed medical, reapplying or possible redo-medical? Joining the Royal Navy 2
M Failed medical Joining the Royal Navy 8
TheMau5e Failed FATs... Can i still take AIB? The Fleet Air Arm 17
F Failed medical and Appeal. Joining the Royal Navy 7
G Failed for medical reasons - appeal? Joining Up - Royal Navy Recruiting 27
sj25105815 Failed medical - Appeal outline help please. Joining the Royal Navy 4
M Failed Officer Selection. Any Advice? Joining Up - Royal Navy Recruiting 10
C Failed Medical Joining the Royal Navy 1
J Failed CDT Joining Up - Royal Navy Recruiting 50
O failed medical review Joining Up - Royal Navy Recruiting 26
S Failed AIB to Rating Joining Up - Royal Navy Recruiting 5
D Failed medical requiring advice Joining Up - Royal Navy Recruiting 1
M Failed driving test's! The Quarterdeck 0
L Failed medical Joining Up - Royal Navy Recruiting 7
J failed the medical standard for entry due to Gilbert's syndrome? Joining Up - Royal Navy Recruiting 5
W Failed my medical - TMU Joining Up - Royal Navy Recruiting 7
M Failed RN Medical Joining Up - Royal Navy Recruiting 12
anchor_face_⚓️ Sea pay for a failed civvy UPO 4
M Failed RM medical Joining Up - Royal Navy Recruiting 4
S Appealing failed medical (eyesight) Joining Up - Royal Navy Recruiting 1
N Failed my RT but still got enough points for WE CIS Joining Up - Royal Navy Recruiting 5
M Joining different force after failed medical Joining Up - Royal Navy Recruiting 1
D Failed medical - Please advise (ACL Reconstruction) Joining Up - Royal Navy Recruiting 6
M Psycometric failed Joining Up - Royal Navy Recruiting 9
H failed medical due to high blood pressure Joining Up - Royal Navy Recruiting 46
H Son Failed RT Maths any Tutor experiances. Joining Up - Royal Navy Recruiting 5
J So, I failed UOTC selection. Joining Up - Royal Navy Recruiting 7
D If an application for officer has failed, can you still pursue a career as a rating? Joining Up - Royal Navy Recruiting 12
Similar threads