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failed medical review

olir1

Newbie
Hi, I am 16, have had my heart set on joining the Navy for the last three years, I have been accepted for weapons engineer following my Psychometric test and interview, but I have just received a rejection letter, following my medical interview, stating I am graded P8 U8 due to a 'shoulder dislocation' last October, but I never suffered a dislocation, just a grade II AC ligament tear which I am fully recovered from and I have no restriction of movement in my shoulder. I am weight training and playing rugby regularly with no problems, I am devastated, is it worth appealing?? and how do I go about the appeal? The letter just ended 'thank you for your interest in the service' nothing about being able to try again???
 

Holmes467

Midshipman
Happened to me bud, I got rejected on the basis of past back "pain" even though all my medical reviews from the doctors had said discomfort.

All the rejection letter is, is someone has looked at your medical records, seen a couple of things out of place and have declined it. I was devastated when mine came through as well, but I fought back. So much so that I have my PRNC on Monday and my start date in May, so its not the end of the world.

What I did, was contact my AFCO, let them know that I would be starting an official appeal, and they help you so much. Thing is, they have no control over what CAPITA say, so it's not their fault at the end of the day. Get it checked out by your doctor and get him/her to write you a note saying "I've examined this, that and everything." Also ask if you can see a specialist in whatever field deals with shoulder issues, your GP should know of at least a couple. However it wont be cheap, but if your hearts set on joining the Navy, or the Forces for that matter...no price is high enough. The Specialists review and paperwork will help your case so much because its what they do for a living.

When I saw my specialist, he offered to book me in for an MRI scan, which I turned down, but more evidence to support your appeal goes into helping you.

I had 6 months to make my appeal, which you may have as well, but call your AFCO on Monday and find out. When you do start it, gather as much information as you can to support it. Doctor, Specialist, Personal Trainer (if you have one), as well as your place of employment, all detailing what you do in terms of physical exertion and professional. In my case, my current occupation is "Brewer", and as I said earlier, I got declined on "Back Issues". Something which is silly seeing as I throw 60kg beer barrels around day in day out!

Hope any of this helps, but feel free to PM me if you have any more questions!
 

Prop1910

Midshipman
I too was considered P8; my AFCO suggested I follow the route of Royal Fleet Auxiliary (after my appeal was rejected).
The RFA have a lower medical requirement (the ENG 1). Although I've yet to take this medical, the RFA occupational nurse seemed to think that I wouldn't have too much trouble passing it.
I am now waiting for AIB for Deck Officer Cadet, having had my heart set on a naval career for a lot longer than three years...(nearer thirty)!!!!
Although it really is utterly demoralising and very upsetting to fail that medical, it isn't the end of the world.
I am now (as I say) waiting for AIB. When I was finally rejected from the appeal process, I never ever thought I'd be in this position...!!!
Passing that, though.....now there's a whole different kettle of fish........
 

olir1

Newbie
thank you all for your advice! I am putting together an appeal, I had a grade 1-2 AC ligament tear and a grade 3 or above can require surgery. An AC ligament tear CAN be classed as a dislocation. I am however fully recovered and experiencing no restriction of movement or other problems at all. It's definitely worth trying the appeal process...but I'm not incredibly hopeful...
 

Ninja_Stoker

War Hero
Moderator
thank you all for your advice! I am putting together an appeal, I had a grade 1-2 AC ligament tear and a grade 3 or above can require surgery. An AC ligament tear CAN be classed as a dislocation. I am however fully recovered and experiencing no restriction of movement or other problems at all. It's definitely worth trying the appeal process...but I'm not incredibly hopeful...
The RN is particularly risk averse to lower limb injuries, particularly those related to ACL because the statistics unfortunately stack up against a fully recovered state over the long term.

Fingers crossed it goes your way and it is appreciated you have not stated you have had or need reconstructive surgery. The Army, who currently apply wider entry parameters reckon the average squaddie with ACL issues costs over £100k just to rehabilitate and rumour has it that the Army may review their current policy.

Best of luck
 

olir1

Newbie
i said I have never had surgery (meaning on my shoulders) APART from a surgery to have my appendix out.
 

olir1

Newbie
I have now had the notes from my consultant and he has said I am a right handed young man - I am left handed - he also says the x-ray on my shoulder 'suggests a mild subluxation'. This was never mentioned to me at the clinic, I was just told I had a grade 1-2 acromioclavicular ligament tear and would be right as rain after 6-8 weeks (which I was) I have read about subluxation, this can cause pain and limitation of movement but I am experiencing neither. Do I have grounds for appeal? especially as the consultant has actually falsely said I am right handed and it was my right shoulder?
 

Ninja_Stoker

War Hero
Moderator
I have now had the notes from my consultant and he has said I am a right handed young man - I am left handed - he also says the x-ray on my shoulder 'suggests a mild subluxation'. This was never mentioned to me at the clinic, I was just told I had a grade 1-2 acromioclavicular ligament tear and would be right as rain after 6-8 weeks (which I was) I have read about subluxation, this can cause pain and limitation of movement but I am experiencing neither. Do I have grounds for appeal? especially as the consultant has actually falsely said I am right handed and it was my right shoulder?
The injury either occurred or it didn't and whether left or right does not alter that fact unfortunately.

Whilst not qualified to give medical advice but to hopefully manage expectations and give common sense advice - You could get your medical notes corrected for the correct location of the injury but that in itself is not viable grounds for a successful appeal. To appeal you either need to prove the injury itself, wherever it is, was incorrectly diagnosed and produce the qualified medical evidence to show what the correct diagnosis is. It may help if you also produce qualified evidence that you have recovered fully and do not suffer sublaxation, as suspected.
 

olir1

Newbie
thank you yes, I think the only thing is to get a private assessment that I no longer have any problems whatsoever, tel them what I am capable of in terms of weight training etc, to try to prove there is no problem.
 
I too was considered P8; my AFCO suggested I follow the route of Royal Fleet Auxiliary (after my appeal was rejected).
The RFA have a lower medical requirement (the ENG 1). Although I've yet to take this medical, the RFA occupational nurse seemed to think that I wouldn't have too much trouble passing it.
I am now waiting for AIB for Deck Officer Cadet, having had my heart set on a naval career for a lot longer than three years...(nearer thirty)!!!!
Although it really is utterly demoralising and very upsetting to fail that medical, it isn't the end of the world.
I am now (as I say) waiting for AIB. When I was finally rejected from the appeal process, I never ever thought I'd be in this position...!!!
Passing that, though.....now there's a whole different kettle of fish........
Good luck mate, will make the success of it all that little bit sweeter
 
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