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Zero0178

Newbie
Evening gents,

Firstly hello, thanks for having me.

So briefly I left the army 18 months ago (yes, crayons taste nice) after 7 years, I wanted to transfer service to the RN but my boss said that getting out and in again would be quicker...he lied.... And finally getting round to getting into the FAA as an Aircrewman, going down the junglie route.

Fortunately, I've been working at RAF Shawbury since I left, for Airbus Helicopters so I'm clued up on that element of the training post Raleigh, but no one seems to know the in and or outs of the junglie training after....

Any insight would be greatly appreciated, I presume it's just military flying and operations training with some boot neck telling me how to survive in the field?

Again lads, really appreciate any help and advice.
 

Waspie

War Hero
To save me much typing.

Go top right on home page. Locate the search box and type in 'Commando Aircrewman'. Quite a bit already discussed. That'll get you started until someone can definitively answer your query.

I've been out the system too long now and things do move on. It was always the way for naval aircrewman that ASW was always the mobs primary route for new initiates. May not be the case these days, hopefully the search facility may answer that.

Good luck.
 

Zero0178

Newbie
To save me much typing.

Go top right on home page. Locate the search box and type in 'Commando Aircrewman'. Quite a bit already discussed. That'll get you started until someone can definitively answer your query.

I've been out the system too long now and things do move on. It was always the way for naval aircrewman that ASW was always the mobs primary route for new initiates. May not be the case these days, hopefully the search facility may answer that.

Good luck.
Thanks waspie, appreciate it!
 

Crashevans86

Midshipman
If your at RAF Shawbury go into the squadron and ask to talk to one of the CHF instructor ACMN.

You do not have to go ASW first at all.

You will get steamed at a suitable point during your time at Shawbury.

On completion you will go to either Culdrose or Yeovilton to do operational conversion.
 

Waspie

War Hero
If your at RAF Shawbury go into the squadron and ask to talk to one of the CHF instructor ACMN.

You do not have to go ASW first at all.

You will get steamed at a suitable point during your time at Shawbury.

On completion you will go to either Culdrose or Yeovilton to do operational conversion.
I knew someone in the know would be along!!
 

Zero0178

Newbie
gents, I found this golden bit of info from 2013, thank you all for your help, ill post it here for anyone else looking for the same info!

Royal Navy personnel from Commando Helicopter Force (CHF) based at RNAS Yeovilton are completing their fifth and final week military training or AIR 338 military acquaint course as it is known.
The course is designed to equip naval personnel with essential military field craft and infantry skills to survive alongside ground troops around the world and to be able to operate and fight effectively as a maritime expeditionary aviation force.

Every member of the CHF, excluding Royal marines, has to undertake this intensive five-week course.
During the initial 3 week phase the trainees focus on learning various skills including basic field craft techniques, such as cooking rations, and learning how to utilise their SA80 weapons to the highest military standard.
During this period personnel also receive theoretical and practical training in battlefield first aid, survival techniques, operational law, equipment care, navigation and surviving and operating in a chemical or biological threat zone, they also develop their personal fitness and expand their knowledge of their new Unit – CHF.
The fourth week combines all the skills learnt into a tactical field exercise and the fifth week will see Sea King helicopters added to the mix so that personnel can practise the skills to become a Junglie – failure will result in the students having to re-train or being withdrawn from the CHF cadre.
Fifth week scenarios carried out in the depth of Langport Range Training Areas include casualty extraction drills, mine strikes and aviation operations within a simulated Forward Operating Base.
During their drills personnel will practice the iconic Arctic huddle under the downdraft of the mighty green giant that is the Sea King helicopter and will also learn aircraft embarking and disembarking technique, essential when making rapid movement in Operational scenarios.
Sergeant Nick Bachelor an air crewmen with 845 Naval Air Squadron, explained how,
“The huddle provides the Pilot of the aircraft a visual reference that is impossible to have in environments such as the desert and the arctic where there are no trees or prominent features to aide the pilot or aircrewman.”
It is the experience of the Royal Marine specialist instructors from CHF that equip personnel with the relevant and imperative field skills to operate safely in the land environment.
Lieutenant Gareth Plunkett, who is responsible for military training described how,
“One of the benefits of the course is that it brings many different trades and elements together from around the navy. It includes everyone from trainee pilots and air crewmen through to signallers, chefs, stewards and logistics personnel.
"Individuals could have been employed in a frigate or destroyer prior to joining CHF so it is a real shock to the system when they have to learn how to rapidly adapt to survive and operate in the field.
"To achieve this we have to provide high quality professional training and through life personal development. Training ensures safety, efficiency and ultimately operational success which has been demonstrated in the Falklands War, the Former Yugoslavia Iraq and the Afghanistan.”

The training at Langport is tough and puts personnel out of their comfort zone, especially in recent temperatures that have exceeded 30 degrees centigrade
However it is an effective way to prepare them for even more challenging conditions, such as the arctic cold weather survival course in northern Norway and frequent environmental training courses in such diverse places such as Arizona and Jordan.
For Petty Officer Air Engineering Technician Brian Lilley, it is the second time that he has undergone this course. Soon to be joining the front line on 845 Squadron he explained how despite the course being tough,
“It progresses naturally and has never been at an excessive tempo. But you are always thinking about the next objective as your comrade’s life could be dependant on you making the right decision.”
“In a situation where you might be really fatigued usually the person you’re helping is in a worse situation than you are. You will recover, they might not.”

Logistician Michelle King, will soon be part of CHF’s logistics department once her training is successfully completed.
The fourth week was her favourite as she put all her field skills together in a tactical environment.
“It was emotional to start with but by the end of the week a lot was achieved. I now know how to go on patrol and take command of small groups; it was fun and a great experience."
It is the success of the Air 338 military acquaint course and the dedicated personnel involved with administrating the course that ensures Commando Helicopter Force are ready for all eventualities be it on exercise or at war.
 

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