Rocket_Ron
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Given some of the opinions raised about the EU, i thought it`d be interesting to get a feel of peoples opinion in a secret (if you want) ballot.
Maxi_77 said:The problem is not that people do not want to make their feelings known, rather the limited choice of options give probably does not reflect most peoples views.
Rocket_Ron said:Maxi_77 said:The problem is not that people do not want to make their feelings known, rather the limited choice of options give probably does not reflect most peoples views.
It goes back to the old referendum question of a few months ago. The vote should have been on the EU constitution, but one of the panellists on Question Time stated that should we ever get a vote, the question would have been as above (the gist of it anyway). This was due to the govt thinking they`d get the result they wanted with this question.
(Personally i would have voted the same way on both questions.)
Thats why the options are limited to either in or out.
Yes, on reflection you`re right, the thread title is wrong. It perhaps should have read-`EU-the vote you nearly got...`Maxi_77 said:The the advert for the thread is wrong, it is not the EU vote we have always wanted, it is the EU vote you have always wanted, and I'm not plkaying.
Nutty said:Contributor Mode
The main problem Brits have with the EU is that you insist on obeying every rule and regulation passed by the Commission. Then employing an army of people to enforce the rules, cross every T and dot every I. Then complain about the silly laws, rules, directives etc. All other countries just cherry pick what they want and pay only the faintest lip service to all the rules they do not want to enforce.
Nutty said:As 42 said, if you leave, being about the least popular country in the EU and its Politicians have more to gain in votes and public support by making life as difficult and awkward for the UK to trade withe the EU. Remember the UK in now a service industry provider, a lot of these services could easily move into the EU borders.
Perhaps a total mindset change by Government and Public would be better than to leave.
Nutty.
mikh said:The way the EU is going, there will eventually be a Superstate under 1 government, a process that will take decades to achieve, but imho inevitable if we remain in the union. If it will be a good or bad thing I do not know.
But from what I have seen and read, the powers of our elected government are slowly and surely being eroded, often with the aid of those in power.
I hope that we are eventually given a chance to vote, both on the 'constitution' and on our place in the union, BUT do not forget, the 'constitution' in its original guise has already been voted against in some countries, and all that managed to achieve was for the eurocrats to change the wording a little and call it something else to try and slip it past the us.
exile1 said:Why does everyone automatically assume that the Brits living in Europe would be chucked out? If the majority of ex-pats on the Costas left then it is probable that the Spanish economy would collapse. As for the rest of Europe, those that are not a burden and can pay their way would, I suspect be allowed to remain. Plenty of Non EU nationals live quite happily in the EU, much the same as millions of non Brits, non EU live in the UK!!!!
Having said that, it's not the Common Market I signed up to in the '70's.
IMO The EU needs us more than we need the EU.
mikh said:The way the EU is going, there will eventually be a Superstate under 1 government, a process that will take decades to achieve, but imho inevitable if we remain in the union. If it will be a good or bad thing I do not know.
But from what I have seen and read, the powers of our elected government are slowly and surely being eroded, often with the aid of those in power.
I hope that we are eventually given a chance to vote, both on the 'constitution' and on our place in the union, BUT do not forget, the 'constitution' in its original guise has already been voted against in some countries, and all that managed to achieve was for the eurocrats to change the wording a little and call it something else to try and slip it past the us.
sussex2 said:The 'Constitution' as already been approved by a majority of states, by whatever process they individually chose.