EU Referendum / Brexit & Fallout

EU Referendum 2016. Do you want to stay in, or get out?

  • Stay in the EU.

    Votes: 52 24.1%
  • Get out of the EU.

    Votes: 147 68.1%
  • Don't know

    Votes: 17 7.9%

  • Total voters


War Hero
Michael Gove take a bow, I'm not a massive fan of the Tories but this speech is a classic (Carriers get a mention after 6:55)

Think he's a pratt but that was a good speach. Couldn't find the bit where ha says" this is a local shop for local people, nothing for you here."


Lantern Swinger
David Cameron made a promise he didn't think he'd have to keep to have a referendum he didn't think he would lose. Boris Johnson decided to back the side he didn't believe in because he didn't think it would win. Then Gove, who said he wouldn't run, did, and Boris who said he would run, said he wouldn't, and Theresa May who didn't vote for Brexit got the job of making it happen. She called the election she said she wouldn't and lost the majority David Cameron hadn't expected to win in the first place. She triggered Article 50 when we didn't need to and said we would talk about trade at the same time as the divorce deal and the EU said they wouldn't so we didn't. People thought she wouldn't get the divorce settled but she did, but only by agreeing to separate arrangements for Northern Ireland when she had promised the DUP she wouldn't. Then the Cabinet agreed a deal but they hadn't, and David Davis who was Brexit Secretary but wasn't said it wasn't what people had voted for and he couldn't support what he had just supported and left. Boris Johnson who hadn't left then wished that he had and did, but it was a bit late for that. Dominic Raab become the new Brexit secretary. People thought Theresa May wouldn't get a withdrawal agreement negotiated, but once she had they wished that she hadn't, because hardly anybody liked it whether they wanted to leave or not. Jacob Rees-Mogg kept threatening a vote of no confidence in her but not enough people were confident enough people would not have confidence in her to confidently call a no confidence vote. Dominic Raab said he hadn't really been Brexit Secretary either and resigned, and somebody else took the job but it probably isn't worth remembering who they are as they're not really doing the job either as Olly Robbins is. Then she said she would call a vote and didn't, that she wouldn't release some legal advice but had to, that she would get some concessions but didn't, and got cross that Juncker was calling her nebulous when he wasn't but probably should have been. At some point Jacob Rees Mogg and others called a vote of no confidence in her, which she won by promising to leave, so she can stay. But they said she had really lost it and should go, at the same time as saying that people who voted Leave knew what they were voting for which they couldn't possibly have because we still don't know now, and that we should leave the vote to Leave vote alone but have no confidence in the no confidence vote which won by more. The government also argued in court against us being able to say we didn't want to leave after all but it turned out we could. She named a date for the vote on her agreement which nobody expected to pass, while pretending that no deal which nobody wants is still possible (even though we know we can just say we are not leaving), and that we can't have a second referendum because having a democratic vote is undemocratic. And of course as expected she loses. Some people are talking about a managed no-deal which is not a deal but is not no-deal either.
Thank goodness for strong and stable government."


War Hero
Book Reviewer

What does he know?
Dyson would be a good man to appoint to deal with the EU.
Don't know the man, but he comes across as a no shit kinda guy.
We should make the man P.M. immediately and send him over to kick some ass.
What he says is dead right, St. Theresa should have used that tactic right from the start.
I'm sure he'd be just the right person to negotiate a deal with the EU, become the next PM and kick some serious ass. However, there's just one flaw in your cunning plan: . It's a bit difficult to run our country from Singapore.


War Hero
You're missing the point buddy.
Not really Dyson isn't moving, it states the supplier dependance on the EU is small, driven by Brexit or business need? Where I work we have a joint venture with Japan, UK design, manufacturers in Japan, been that way for years. The tongue in cheek comments were made regardarding a strong leader is required

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