Electrician in the Navy

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  1. Hi All,

    Can you be an Electrician in the navy and if so at which point in recruitment or your career can your specify that you want to be a sparky or does it come under Engineering Technician??

    Cheers
     
  2. Yeah you can, I think it's a trade you choose.
     
  3. Lamri is probably your best bet on this, but essentially the trade which would be closest to an electrician is part of the Marine Engineering specialisation, subspecialising in elecrical generation and distribution.

    Weapon and Air engineering technicians get more into electronics than generation and distribution, but the skillsets are pretty extensible.
     
  4. If you join as ET(MESM) you would specialise as "Electrical" on your Leading ETs Qualifying Course, where you'll do electrical machines, power and distribution and electronics, control and instrumentation. A really good set of trade skills.
     
  5. Scabz is correct.
    These days the only way you will gain any Electrical Training is as a Submariner.
    General Service stopped training new joiners as Electricians roughly the same time that the first CODLAG ships came into the fleet. (DL = Diesel Electric).
     
  6. So why does the current Royal Navy advert on tv advertise a sparky on boats?
     
  7. cos they are short of submariners
     
  8. The advert featuring “sometimes I just switch it off and on†isn’t for a sparky.

    :dwarf:
     
  9. Possibly my mistake, I saw the word boat and assumed The_One was talking about the submarine advert.

    :dwarf:
     
  10. I think they are trying to make stokers sound realy "kool"
     
  11. Stokers = Mechanics.
    I wonder what ETs will be called?
     
  12. The boarding party one isn't showing you a Naval Electrician.
    Just some scrote replacing some fuses!
     
  13. So hes lying then when he goes on about being an electrician in the navy?
     
  14. Just remember to keep one hand in your pocket when working on a live board… :whew:
     
  15. No, but I think there's a bit of a confusion about what people mean by electrician.
    It's used more as a colloquial term to mean someone with some electrical trade knowledge. The RN operates electrically powered kit (from power generation, distribution, transformers, motors, lighting circuits, etc) all of which needs to be maintained to high standards by RN technicians. Any good ET will be able to fault find on lighting circuits, galley equipment, motors and starters, etc. So within say 26 weeks of joining ETs have sound basic electrical skills. But the RN does not have a specialist trade "electrician" nor does it train to 17th ed wiring regs for domestic electrical supplies. Even the LET(MESM) who gets considerable electrical training and is an electrical specialist maintainer no longer gets the spec "L" added (makes it fun tracking the greenies down in JPA, sheesh).
     
  16. Please don't be fooled by the advets that the Navy are putting on the TV. I joined the Navy 20 years ago as an MEM(L), thinking that I would be an electrician only to find out that I would mostly be employed on mechanical sections. When I did work electrical sections it was to change a light bulb. Move on a few years and the ME branch developed again and suddenly there was no sub specialisaction at all (unless you were a submariner). My advice to you is don't believe a word the adverts say, they are purley propaganda for a struggling service. If you want to be an electricain and get some civilian qualifications, then get an apprenticeship. Do not join the Navy you will only be dissapointed.
     
  17. Would have to agree there. For the most part as a MEM(L) I spent most of my time cleaning electrical equipment, not maintaining it. As time went on I got to supervise other people cleaning electrical equipment, as far as training goes the Royal Navy only trains you to do enough to do the job they want you too, no more. :whew:

    Take a proper electricians apprenticeship outside and you will come away with far better qualifications after five years, than i have after 25 years :crying:
     
  18. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    Having just had a so-called qualified civilian electrician & his apprentice fault-finding a build-up of static electricity in our building for a couple of days with no result I wouldn't hold your breath with regard the ability derived outside. Qualifications maybe, ability dubious.

    The fault? As pointed out by an ex- CMEM(M), perhaps they should have earth bonded the boiler they had just fitted. Doh.
     
  19. Fleet Sprog and Clive, you both have obviously been very unlucky in your time in the RN.
    I joined my first ship as an MEM(L) and my first job was to find an earth on a 220VDC Donkey Boiler panel. Since then I have maintained Steering Gear and Controls mostly and have never had the misfortune to work in a Doms section apart from a short while, where I was quickly bored silly.
    I will remain a POMEM(L) until I go outside in just over 2 years and have seen the sad demise of the (sub) branch that I loved being a part of. My advice would be the same as you both, but it would seem for different reasons.
    :)
     
  20. Electrical jobs like fault finding on a donkey boiler or on a controls system on ships come along ocasionally. I have also worked on both of these systems as a JR and as a SR. However they are few and far between, most electrical jobs occur after the Chefs have been having galley games, and boy can you here the greenies complain when that happens. The majority of electrical jobs are mudane like earth bonding continuity or lamp tramping. Also it is highly unlikely that I would let any rating below LH even open up the control panel of a donkey boiler, let alone fault find on it.

    With regards to the ability derived from outside qualifications, at least qualifications achieved outside are recognised by most electrical employers, allowing you to move jobs. I have no recognisable electrical qualifications from the RN, despite working with electrics for twenty years. There might be the ability to achieve better qualifications within the RN now, but you don't achieve them until later in your career, meaning you are in the pension trap before you have the chance to use them in civvy street.
     

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