Thanks Perry, your post has brought me much comfort and I feel somewhat vindicated. Im all too aware of my sons shortcomings, he certainly does not have the charisma or competence to lead others at 18. He wouldnt have been a superior rating either but this narrative of 'he couldn't cut it- end of ' is untrue. If he hadn't been a LH I believe he couldve been supported to pass out. Hes come straight from school and has only had leadership responsibilities as a pupil. It seems to me it would take an exceptional individual to make it to LH fast track at 18. That was never going to be my son.

Supportive Dad

Lantern Swinger
Reading this with interest as my son has just turned 16 and with just medical and fitness stages left could well be off to Raleigh in a few months. He is obviously not looking at the LH level but these are just kids, starting out for the first time. Pass or fail, they deserve all the support possible to get them on in life. Sometimes one avenue closes, but as long as everyone stays positive, another chance will come. Very often the best lessons are the tough ones. At 18 I would have been a disaster in the forces. Best of luck to your boy.


War Hero
Super Moderator
I, like many others, joined at 16, as were most of my class and we all managed ok.

Apart from the physical side Phase 1 is basically look listen and learn.


War Hero
If I may throw my hat into the ring. I joined the RN just after my 16th BD. I didn’t have a great time at home, I had behavioural problems and massive chip (read chip shop) on my shoulder.

I wanted a fresh start. I wasn’t great at P-Org and how the RN wanted things doing. My phys was my only saving grace. I was back-classed into another division and the realisation that I could potentially be kicked out to go back to my life; that I was eager to distance myself from was the catalyst for me to try harder.

The RN is full of stories like this. It is mentioned time and again, from those that served in the 60’s to those that join today. One of my favourite quotes that is always on my pit (bed) is “I can't change the direction of the wind, but I can adjust my sails to always reach my destination.”

Every service person will be tested. I have been (both in combat and in peacetime) and the currency that you accumulate every time you are exposed to it, you ‘cash in’. It’s a matter of perspective as to how you view you experiences.

Take the knock on the chin, brush yourself off and identify your next plan. Identify your own shortcoming’s and TRY not to make the same mistake again.

I managed to reach the rank of Chief. There are only two others in my entry still serving.

I hope this helps.

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In general, the popularity of URNUs is such that they are often oversubscribed within minutes of the books opening during Fresher's Week...

@Boots45 Junior should be made aware of this and not to expect a 'shoe in'...


Thank you both. I think he realises where he went wrong. Like I said racking up warnings too soon made it made it hard to redeem himself. Even in 6 weeks I see a more mature and serious person and he's looking great - fit and tanned! Now he ll be living at home he claims he won't let p org slide and will do all family ironing. His sister has taken his old room so he ll have to be very tidy. Thanks for the heads up on URNUs, he ll need to get on it ASAP.

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