This isn't a question I need answered but I wanted to share my son's experience of discharge during phase 1 training. He joined as a school leaver on a degree apprenticeship to become a submarine engineer. He was discharged today after six weeks for a series of warnings, he reached tier 3 too quickly due to p- org and was backclassed once after weapons week. He passed his kit muster on the 3rd attempt, he was the only one out of seven having got up at 4 am to finish it off. He passed the weapons drills and all fitness tests. The last six weeks have been an emotional rollercoaster, especially the last few days after I heard warnings had escalated to 'the table'. I am absolutely gutted and I have never heard my son sound so broken and dejected- it is like a form of torture. My son always has been scatty and poorly organised, no doubt, but by the time he passed his kit muster at wk 4 he incurred no further p- org warnings. The final warning which brought him to a hearing was a lack of effort at PT apparently. He is a highly technically minded young man and naturally lacks good coordination, therefore he struggled to lead drill as apparently thats what a LH does. He is not even 18 and a half yet had been given a very generous salary and the expectation of him during training was that he would be better than the other ratings at all tasks. This was totally unrealistic, I believe he would've passed out if he'd been a rating. He was with men in their 20s with degrees and work experience. I dont blame anyone but I feel my son was set up to fail. It would take an exceptional 18 yr old to be a leading hand, my son says most of the UGAS recruits were older than him. Some of the others are training extended more than once but my son wasn't given this opportunity. This experience has been the most crushing blow, I've barely slept in a week as we thought he was destined for a wonderful career. He still wants to join the RN but will study for a degree first. He may reapply in future. I really hope no other family has to go through what we ve been through over the last few days. If he had been given another chance I'd have had to cut off all contact for the sake of my health.