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Drink culture in the RN,

Ninja_Stoker

War Hero
Moderator
Just to stress, it's an opinion, not a fact but possibly the reason there is a drink culture is because firstly there is a daily duty free allowance, which stems back to the days of Rum & the Lash.

Unlike a civilian job where you don't usually sleep, eat & socialise at your place of work 24/7- In the service your recreation time (particularly when overseas) is spent with like-minded individuals. Often this will mean going out for a meal & a drink. As a civilian when you are off work, it isn't unusual to have a holiday overseas which often includes going for a drink - the service is no different other than you quite often find yourselves having random days off overseas.

The other issue with the services is that if you perform well, you are not given cash reward, however it's not uncommon to be given either time off in lieu, a case of beer or both.

You don't have to drink, it's up to the individual.
 

mattbea

Banned
Peer pressure remember!!
Drinking and medical bars from entry makes me wonder (no alcoholics or alcohol dependants allowed entry)...
Thinking about that then why on earth have many EX RN and many EX and serving soldiers in the Army too have told me its a drinking culture but on many years of service tends to screw your liver up by the time you are a civvi AGAIN.
 

Rookie-WWFC

Lantern Swinger
Well maybe the fact you've got wages to spend? I had an Uncle in and he was meant to be able to handle his drink pretty well. I'm just trying to get some opinions perhaps start a bit of debate as opposed to the same old questions on this forum.
 

Polto

War Hero
Rookie-WWFC said:
Well maybe the fact you've got wages to spend? I had an Uncle in and he was meant to be able to handle his drink pretty well. I'm just trying to get some opinions perhaps start a bit of debate as opposed to the same old questions on this forum.

Would you be kind enough to state what you understand by the term 'drink culture' please? We may then be in a position to comment more constructively...
 

tommo

War Hero
Rookie-WWFC said:
Well maybe the fact you've got wages to spend? I had an Uncle in and he was meant to be able to handle his drink pretty well. I'm just trying to get some opinions perhaps start a bit of debate as opposed to the same old questions on this forum.

At £10 a pint during happy hour in Japan when I was there do you reckon it was cos we had wages to spend??

When you're cooped up in a Type 42 for a fair old time away from family when you get ashore you're going to make the most of it.

Unlike chavs, Matelots don't all drink at sea, don't all drink ashore. However in a lot of places there is little else to do.
 

Rumrat

War Hero
Jesus, if you think there is nothing to do but drink when ashore your in a bad way.
You "roll off" occasionally, drink ...............then get back on. Maybe smoke a fag, or if like me you multitask do all three at once.
What do you mean nowt to do?

I must explain the basics of naval life to you.


You spend your money initially on essentials, BEER, FAGS, WOMEN,

You are then free to squander the rest
 

tommo

War Hero
Rumrat said:
Jesus, if you think there is nothing to do but drink when ashore your in a bad way.
You "roll off" occasionally, drink ...............then get back on. Maybe smoke a fag, or if like me you multitask do all three at once.
What do you mean nowt to do?

I must explain the basics of naval life to you.


You spend your money initially on essentials, BEER, FAGS, WOMEN,

You are then free to squander the rest

That wasn't quite what I meant when I said there is little to do in some places! However, when you get one night run ashore in a foreign place that doesn't have much apart from a few hotels i.e certain places in India. At night you go an make the best you can of a crap place. If that means a mess run ashore so be it

As for explain the naval life there is no need to take my word. Done plenty of your three essentials and more. :lol:
 

Rumrat

War Hero
India's a great run, try the Merchant seamans club just across from the Gateway to india, or what about "The cages".
 

Rumrat

War Hero
When we were pulling all the "Don't want to stay here folk out of Iran before the Ayatollah came to power India was our home base, have stacks of brill memories of the gaff.
 
tiddlyoggy said:
History. Tradition.

The history is that beer was drunk on RN ships (18th C) because the water was usually pretty foul, and rum (lots of it) was issued so that matelots were half pissed most of the time and fully pissed some of the time and thus worked without complaint. The tot issue continued into the 1970's and that, and cheap beer, led to many matelots developing alcoholism. Officers were usually not much better, with gin at two (old) pence for a double mixed with Angostura Bitters (free) and water (free) and a tradition of work hard and play hard. Many officers went from enjoying a drink or three to needing a drink or five or more. "Don't ask him to do anything in the afternoon" was a commonly heard comment. So there you are. Today the cause of too much pissing up in the RN is History, Tradition and the lad/ladette culture. The seeds of middle/old age illness are often sown in one's youth. "If only I could have my time over again ......!!"
 

tommo

War Hero
When were you last in India though? They weren't more than sh*t holes the places we pulled in to. However we made the best of them! The nights did consist of a few drinks.

I didn't touch the cages when I went there one place I didn't want to put my knob lol I'm snaggy but not that snaggy
 
Yes, there is a drink culture but you are not forced to take part..
Remember you cannot fill a full glass and a hand over a glass is a polite refusal.
No one will hold a gun to your head and make you buy in rounds etc etc..to occasionally lead the charge to the bar as a token of generosity doesn't mean you have to hold that position for the rest of the evening.
 
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