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  1. 8 foreign Doctors, 3 bombs, no deaths.

    Harold Shipman, 1 Doctor, 1 syringe, 300 deaths.

    Makes you proud to be British. :w00t:
  2. And he was a good christian lad too Make thee think

  3. Ha Ha ... Just spat beer over my keyboard :)
  4. I remember the one where somebody told Harold Mrs Brown had just died he replied "I could have told you that last week"
  5. Hig that is fcuking classic!!
    Brilliant :) :D
  6. An interesting aspect of the health industry . Enough to make one ill innit

    The American Iatrogenic Association is devoted to the study and reporting of medical errors that lead to disease and death.

    In 2000, a presidential task force labelled medical errors a "national problem of epidemic proportions." Members estimated that the "cost associated with these errors in lost income, disability, and health care costs is as much as $29 billion annually." That same year the Institute of Medicine released an historic report, "To err is human: building a safer health system." The report's authors concluded that 44,000 to 98,000 people die each year as a result of errors during hospitalization. They noted that "even when using the lower estimate, deaths due to medical errors exceed the number attributable to the 8th-leading cause of death." The addition of non-hospital errors may drive the numbers of errors and deaths much higher. As the authors note, the hospital data "offer only a very modest estimate of the magnitude of the problem since hospital patients represent only a small proportion of the total population at risk, and direct hospital costs are only a fraction of total costs."

    Medical errors are the not only way that consumers are harmed. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention estimates that 2 million people annually acquire infections while hospitalized and 90,000 people die from those infections. More than 70 percent of hospital-acquired infections have become resistant to at least one of the drugs commonly used to treat them, largely due to the overprescribing of antibiotics by physicians. Staph, the leading cause of hospital infections, is now resistant to 95 percent of first-choice antibiotics and 30 percent of second-choice antibiotics. Poor staff hygiene is considered the leading source for infections acquired during hospitalizations. But efforts to get medical workers to improve safety through things as simple as better and more frequent hand washing have met with little success.

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  7. FFS hobbit, I`ve tried my hardest, but theres nothing to laugh at at all.
  8. Apologies HTP it is not a ' funny ' but an illustration of the high rate of death by the health industry .
  9. Kind of inevitable, since you're going into it with something wrong.

    FFS, people make mistakes in all walks of life. Yes in the healthcare industry those mistakes can cause long-lasting issues or death, but equally so can mistakes in other fields.
  10. The thread was started with a joke, i thought it might continue with others on the same line, how wrong can you be eh? Hence the wry humour which as usual falls on stony ground, ah well, hi ho.
  11. Hel I get used to it, my SoH is usually described as arid
  12. Dead wryt HTP but to err is human and these things happen in many places
    so like the doctors I will bury my mistake and give a more accurate diagnosis in the future
  13. I see one of these f*cking terrorist that crashed into GLA has been complaining to his docotrs.

    He says the food is terrible, Haggis, Neeps and Tatties for Breakfast, Lunch and Dinner.

    I'm mean FFS it is a Burns ward!
  14. Haven't laughed so much at anything all week! Brilliant Higs!
  15. Flamazine for pudding no doubt.
  16. en flambe, of course!

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