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Discharged TU (I) wanting to rejoin

LNPNEFC

Newbie
I’m just looking for some advice, I want to make sure I’m not being fobbed off more than anything around 2 years ago I was discharged TU (I) I was 18 years old at the time and I’d joined the navy at the age of 16 so was very young and naive, I was being told by my peers on board ship that the navy wasn’t the right place for me and that I should consider leaving I had mess mates telling me “mental health is the best route” as I said I was very young and very naive I was very influenced by what I was hearing so I went and spoke to the MO onboard who put me in a referral to DCMH and they recommended my discharge, I had told them I had mental health issues however this wasn’t the case I was just being influenced by what I was hearing and I felt like I was being told the navy would benefit without me being a part of it anyway after all of this my DO shoreside was telling me virtually the same stuff that I was being told on board by my peer ratings, I will be completely honest my immaturity did show due to my young age and I can understand why people were telling me this and maybe I did join the service a bit too early (jumping in at the deep end so to speak) my divisional officer always made it clear that the TU route was 100% my choice but he never made clear the implications of this route meaning I would never be able to serve again had I known this I wouldn’t have made the decision to leave because deep down I have always known this is what I wanted to do I feel that me being young and hearing the things I heard from more experienced members of my mess severely influenced my decision at the time. Anyway fast forward 2 years and I’ve applied to rejoin at first great the rejoining team approved and said I can re apply 3 weeks pass and I’ve heard nothing since re submitting my application then yesterday I got a call saying it was bad news and due to being discharged administratively by TU (I) puts a block on my service number from being processed I really want to know if there is any way I can appeal this because I asked the question over the phone and they said no but I can’t just leave it at that I have to fight for the career I want so I would really appreciate some solid advice if anyone has it, thanks in advance.
 

LNPNEFC

Newbie
I did think about this thread last night, in the hope that I could add something useful. I did look at Chapter 12 of BR3 for more information on re-entries.


thanks for that I’ve had a read I think my best bet will be to contact my local careers office and see if they can add any more information too, I can’t see anything in there about TU (I) specifically so I’m hoping AFCO will know more, thanks again
 

Drakey

War Hero
You played the system to your advantage because it felt the right thing to do at the time and it worked for you.

Well done.

However, now that life as a civvy perhaps hasn't worked out the way you planned, you want to reverse it. You can't have it both ways.

Good luck.
 

LNPNEFC

Newbie
What do you understand TU to mean?
Temperamentally unsuitable but I was under the impression that it was being seen as at the time I was unsuitable but in the future that view could change, around the time of my discharge I vividly remember someone saying to me I would be able to reapply “in a couple of years” it just seems weird to me that the rejoining team would say they’re accepting me back in after my branch manager reviewed me for them then 3 weeks later to pick up that my discharge blocks me from re entry, surely my discharge category would be the first thing they’d check?
 

WreckerL

War Hero
Super Moderator
It seems like something not many people have come across to be honest even reading up online for some info and you can’t find anything really that’s of any use
I get the TU bit but have not come across the (I) unless it stands for Immature.
 

Drakey

War Hero
Temperamentally unsuitable but I was under the impression that it was being seen as at the time I was unsuitable but in the future that view could change, around the time of my discharge I vividly remember someone saying to me I would be able to reapply “in a couple of years” it just seems weird to me that the rejoining team would say they’re accepting me back in after my branch manager reviewed me for them then 3 weeks later to pick up that my discharge blocks me from re entry, surely my discharge category would be the first thing they’d check?

But not vivid enough to remember who it was that said it.

Branch manager would give the provisional go ahead. Then after further investigation a decision would be made. They've made it...
 

pompeyexpat

War Hero
I really can't see any other route than through the AFCO; and if they say it's a no go then it probably is. Any appeal against the decision, if it can be made, would I'm sure go through CNR anyway - so the AFCO is the place to go.

I'm fairly that the ref Soleil has posted probably covers it, and that anything that goes into any further detail is unlikely to be open source so I wouldn't post anything from it on here anyway.

I'm afraid I think Drakey hit the nail on the head. Whether as the result of peer pressure combined with immaturity on your part or not, the fact is you made the choice to accept a discharge as TU which looks likely to have prevented you rejoining later. I'd say what you have to do now is take that onboard as a life lesson and look for a future that suits you in civvy street.
 

Dredd

War Hero
Super Moderator
I've been pondering this one as well. What we are being told is pointing towards something that was judged more than simply immaturity and towards some incident or behaviour that is deemed unsuitable for military (or at least naval) service.

There is something we are not being told. Only the OP knows what was discussed at the time of discharge and the answer is likely to be in there somewhere. But regardless, it is not for us here to speculate what is or is not fair. The decision-makers have decided that they will not be encouraging the OP to continue with the application and I cannot see how that can be appealed against.

I also found it interesting that from the really, really, really long sentence that started this off, only two years have elapsed. OP said they were immature at 18 - they are now 20. It is unlikely that the RN will consider this as having been long enough for the behaviour to have significantly changed and they are not going to waste time and money on a gamble so soon again afterwards. Especially as there has been a recent upturn in recruits.

Personally, I would suggest the OP take another few years out before considering pursuing another application. But that is just me.
 
Personally, I would suggest the OP take another few years out before considering pursuing another application. But that is just me.
^Agree with @Dredd, so #metoo.

Case details clearly NOT for these Pages but for any Review I'd imagine that the RN Medics would require the full background of the OP's Medical/ 'Mental Health Issues' up to and after Discharge. plus a full progress report since that time from the patient's GP (complete with the MH Specialist's prognosis and reports).

Given this former recruit's tender age ATT (between 16 and 18) there must surely have been some 'duty-of-care interchange and machinations' between Divisional Staff and appropriate adult(s) - Further grist to any Review Mill for another apparent case of a Queens Hard Bargain being moved along at a swift pace which suited all parties concerned.

Without presuming the outcome it strikes me that the OP willingly but carelessly worked his/her Ticket but now bitterly regrets that the Ticket was a Forces Single, not a Return...
 

redmonkey

Lantern Swinger
Book Reviewer
We had someone like this in my department on my last ship. Unfortunately we also had a grumpy LH who didn't want to be there and acted as a morale sponge.
All it takes is someone like the grumpy LH and an early career can be ruined.
If I could have got rid of the LH to somewhere he wanted to be maybe the young lad would have given more time to find out what the real navy was like.
In the end the grumpy LH was landed, as he was also pulling different strings, in the end going where he wanted to be. I have no doubt that he is still causing grief for those below him and his D.O.

I would much prefer the LH went to civvy street as I feel he was rewarded for being a cock.
The young lad showed promise.
 
If you haven't already seen it, BR3 Chapter 54 Annex 54D deals with being discharged due to Temperamental Unsuitability. If you go to the below link and search for "temperamental" you should find it easily

https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/-/medi...s/reference-library/br-3-vol-1/chapter-54.pdf

The I in TU (I) stands for Irremediable. According to the document linked to above this means that, in the eyes of the psychiatrist who examined your case:

This person’s temperament is such that, in all probability, he or she will be incapable of making the necessary adaptation to Service life.

I have no knowledge on this subject beyond what I've read in the BR, so cannot comment on whether it would be possible to appeal.

The RN is one route to a rewarding career but not necessarily the best one for you, especially if you struggled so much to adapt to service life. If I were you I'd think about alternative career plans - there's plenty of opportunities out there, especially at your age. Good luck.
 

Alfacharlie

War Hero
If you haven't already seen it, BR3 Chapter 54 Annex 54D deals with being discharged due to Temperamental Unsuitability. If you go to the below link and search for "temperamental" you should find it easily

https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/-/medi...s/reference-library/br-3-vol-1/chapter-54.pdf

The I in TU (I) stands for Irremediable. According to the document linked to above this means that, in the eyes of the psychiatrist who examined your case:

This person’s temperament is such that, in all probability, he or she will be incapable of making the necessary adaptation to Service life.

I have no knowledge on this subject beyond what I've read in the BR, so cannot comment on whether it would be possible to appeal.

The RN is one route to a rewarding career but not necessarily the best one for you, especially if you struggled so much to adapt to service life. If I were you I'd think about alternative career plans - there's plenty of opportunities out there, especially at your age. Good luck.
I’m a firm believer in ,”You make your bed, now you bed down.”
Sorry mate. No sympathy from this call sign. (Cake and eat it??). Ridiculous.
I standby for lashing......
Couldn’t give 2 fcuks tbf.
 
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