Disaster in Haiti and the RN

#3
If they get the airstrip opened, I can't see any real requirement for Disaster relief ops from RN given that the quake was reasonably confined/affected Port Au Prince only and not other cities in Haiti.

UN on the spot (albeit part of the crunch not coming in with relief supplies etc), other relief supplies available from northern haiti provided lines of communication are open (refer my point about airstrip)

Of course I could be talking total bollox, in which case ...
 
#4
HMS Iron Duke is in the region so if UK is supplying any Disaster Relief she will most likley be the one doing it. Lads n Lasses will have had needed training for such event prior to deployment. TBF Jack does a much better job of this than your average Biggles, with Perc coming a close second. After all can't have the Crabs getting dirty hands can we.
 
#7
Coincidentally, this is one of several possibly apocryphal dits I received in an e-mail today:

e-mailed dit said:
There was a conference in France where a number of international engineers were taking part, including French and American. During a break, one of the French engineers came back into the room saying, 'Have you heard the latest dumb stunt Bush has done? He has sent an aircraft carrier to Indonesia to help the tsunami victims. What does he intend to do, bomb them?'

A Boeing engineer stood up and replied quietly:

'Our carriers have three hospitals on board that can treat several hundred people; they are nuclear powered and can supply emergency electrical power to shore facilities; they have three cafeterias with the capacity to feed 3,000 people three meals a day, they can produce several thousand gallons of fresh water from sea water each day, and they carry half a dozen helicopters for use in transporting victims and injured to and from their flight deck. We have eleven such ships; how many does France have?'

You could have heard a pin drop.
P.S. The Grey Funnel line took me to Port-au-Prince and Cap-Haitien in 1975. Very educational but not exactly enjoyable despite the stunning scenery.
 
#8
Gosh a frigate to haiti, they'll be overwhelmed..........on news tonight, flights every coupla mins in hercs from US/Brazil/Canada. A US carrier has set sail as well as a hospital ship. rescue teams from all over are on there way now.......reports of 100k-150k dead. No water, sanitation its only gonna get worse, Poor bastards.
 
#9
The one and only Atlantic Guardship is playing amongst the penguins just now, as is the nearest RFA. The RNs own website says so. So, no prospect whatsoever of seeing a White Ensign anywhere near nor its wearer providing much needed fresh water, electricity or the standard HRS/ISS type support.

The UK “force for good†is rather limited at the moment and destined to become more so.
 
#10
StixJimboRM said:
alacrity174 said:
HMS Iron Duke is in the region so if UK is supplying any Disaster Relief she will most likley be the one doing it. Lads n Lasses will have had needed training for such event prior to deployment. TBF Jack does a much better job of this than your average Biggles, with Perc coming a close second. After all can't have the Crabs getting dirty hands can we.
HMS Iron Duke is currently tied up at Fountain Lake Jetty, so unless she makes absolute best speed, with a tail wind and a bit of black magic she won't be getting to Port Au Prince anytime soon
Sorry for gash buzz shippers, was going of RN website which had her in the Caribbean. I bow to your far superior knowledge.
 
#11
And what, precisely, would we do when we got there? Put 30(ish) matelots ashore for 3 or 4 days cleaning up stuff and maybe getting the odd genny or two running?! In a situation like this, we'd only get in the way, much better to let the disaster relief professionals crack-on!

*edited for fast fingers and poor england!
 
#13
alfred_the_great said:
And what, precisely, would we do when we got there? Put 30(ish) matelots ashore for 3 or 4 days cleaning up stuff and maybe getting the odd genny or two running?! In a situation like this, we'd only get in the way, much better to let the disaster relief professionals crack-on!

*edited for fast fingers and poor england!
Agree. My Prez has pledged $100mil already. Broon said anything yet?
 
#14
cornishgolfer said:
alfred_the_great said:
And what, precisely, would we do when we got there? Put 30(ish) matelots ashore for 3 or 4 days cleaning up stuff and maybe getting the odd genny or two running?! In a situation like this, we'd only get in the way, much better to let the disaster relief professionals crack-on!

*edited for fast fingers and poor england!
Agree. My Prez has pledged $100mil already. Broon said anything yet?
Yes, we are giving $10 million, we are a leading player in humanitarian relief and rescue operations and we never fail to offer financial and logistical support in the wake of this sort of disaster.

http://www.dfid.gov.uk/Media-Room/News-Stories/2010/Haiti-Earthquake/

Of course if you believe the American news you'll think the President himself was holding up buildings with his very hands, there will be American S+R teams and American engineers and American finances, good job it happened in a country within earshot of the mainland or they wouldn't have even known it happened.
 
#18
alfred_the_great said:
And what, precisely, would we do when we got there? Put 30(ish) matelots ashore for 3 or 4 days cleaning up stuff and maybe getting the odd genny or two running?! In a situation like this, we'd only get in the way, much better to let the disaster relief professionals crack-on!

*edited for fast fingers and poor england!
A particularly famous precedent was the earthquake on the Greek island of Kefalonia in 1953, as featured in 'Captain Correlli's Mandolin':

Kefalonia: The catastrophic earthquake of 1953 on Kefalonia, Greece
Greeka.com said:
...The island did receive international help. It got the most help from the United States, Britain, Sweden and Norway. The first ship to help the island was the British Royal Navy's HMS Daring. A street in the town of Argostoli is named after this ship....

Return of the Webmaster

MCDOA website said:
...HMS Daring provided the first disaster relief after the 1953 earthquake destroyed all but one village on the island and the Kefalonians remain eternally grateful. When a ship's company reunion was held in our hotel at Sami in 2003, a local man had tears in his eyes as he recounted how the sailors had pulled his pregnant mother out of the ruins of her home. But for this rescue, he would not have been around to tell the tale.

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Picture on display in Pericles Hotel, Sami
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Apparently, HMS Daring circumnavigated the island and landed parties to help the most devastated communities. The locals were so traumatised that they were unable to organise any effective search and rescue operations themselves but were roped into some sort of order by the disciplined naval personnel.
 
#19
cornishgolfer said:
alfred_the_great said:
And what, precisely, would we do when we got there? Put 30(ish) matelots ashore for 3 or 4 days cleaning up stuff and maybe getting the odd genny or two running?! In a situation like this, we'd only get in the way, much better to let the disaster relief professionals crack-on!

*edited for fast fingers and poor england!
Agree. My Prez has pledged $100mil already. Broon said anything yet?
Have you lot sorted New Orleans out yet?
 

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