Deja vu ?

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  1. China echoes Russian missile concerns
    Tuesday Jun 5 19:46 AEST
    AP - China has echoed concerns raised by Russia over a US plan for a missile defence shield in Europe, saying such a system could trigger an arms race.
    The White House plans to place a radar system in the Czech Republic and interceptor missiles in Poland - two Eastern European countries that were in the Soviet orbit during the Cold War era.
    Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Jiang Yu said the plan had "aroused great concern and attention."
    "China believes that the impact of a missile defence system on strategic defence and stability is not conducive to mutual trust of major nations and regional security," she said. "It may also give rise to a proliferation problem."

    Over the weekend, Russian President Vladimir Putin warned that Moscow could take "retaliatory steps" including aiming nuclear weapons at US military bases in Europe if the shield was realised.
    Moscow believes the shield in Eastern Europe is meant for Russia, and says it has no choice but to boost its own military potential in response.
    The US says the network is meant to protect NATO allies against a missile launch from Iran.
    Once Cold War rivals for the allegiances of the socialist world, China and Russia improved relations dramatically in the 1990s and forged what they call a "strategic partnership."
  2. well they do say things always happen in threes :sad1:
  4. What this needs is the strongest possible EU censure on those states who are considering allowing the U.S. weapons/systems onto their territory.
    Why the U.S. persists in following 1950's military practice in the 21st century is beyond me.
    Now lets start on dubious aircraft using EU airspace for 'extraordinairy rendition' something we haven't heard the last of by a long chalk.
  5. I heard yer man Bush on the news tonight ( ) : he sounded almost believable, once you braced against the embarrassment. He's offered Russia access to the technology. Also, he made a valid point that the number of anti ICBM systems to be deployed would be significant against a handful of missiles (can't imagine them developing MIRV/REBs for many years) from a "rogue" state but not against Russia's remaining capability.

    I started off by thinking that the US weren't being overly bright but I'm now thinking that the Russians are matching them. Now add the China dimension and we clearly have interesting times ahead. Whatever this shakes out, one thing you can bet on; no claw-back of the "peace dividend".
  6. Shouldn't worry about it too much. After all, we have less ships, etc this time so the damage would be less if it all kicks off.

  7. Given the likelihood ( inevitability ? ) of WW 3 the comment by Albert Einstein is interesting ,

    Quote: I do not know with what weapons World War 3 will be fought, but World War 4 will be fought with sticks and stones.
    Author: Albert Einstein 1879-1955, German-born American Physicist
  8. we had removed most of the anxiety through long hard work and this majorly messed up fcukwit Bush comes along and says "hey, lets start up the arms race again"

    DER Dee DUR
  9. Yes , that brilliant movie , ' Lord of War ' I believe it is , with the sale of weapons to all who want them. The hypocrisy of the nuclear ban with Iran and North Korea while anything goes with the more conventional stuff . Rather disturbing , a recent comment in the Oz press that the army has deemed ' cluster bombs ' neccessary . What with all the land mines left around and the likelihood of the same with cluster bombs where will it bloody well end I wonder . Probably not while there is money to be made , and after all , it is a form of population control .
  10. How much more proof do you need this is the weakest American President in history?

    I've never seen one so manipulated by religous bigots and 'special interest groups' in my entire life.

    It's a damn close run thing against assorted pissed off insurgents, and now someone wants to get back to the good old days of the Cold War?

    Lunacy, absolute lunacy.
  11. Bit of sabre rattling going on and flexing of muscle . May be a case of after the Olympics the real games will begin . Sort out the population problem anyway but as is said that you know who seems hell bent on going out in a blaze of glory , unfortunately taking a lot of decent folk with him,

  12. They've taken down all the 'This way to the Secret Bunker' signs near to me so I'm starting to get worried.

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