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Degtree's in Uni for the Marines

Ninja_Stoker

War Hero
Moderator
Stufish,

Rest assured there are many in similar situations to yourself. It is fortunate that you appreciate that you will gain "hands on" experience as a rating. Many Engineering Officers join in the mistaken belief that the 3 years gaining an engineering degree will entail them wielding a spanner. You are quite correct it will not - you will manage & lead those that do as an Officer.

A good point & it's good to see you've researched your chosen trade.

As a point of interest, the Royal Marines, in my experience, probably have more graduates serving as Other Ranks than any other non-artificer trade in the Royal Navy.

(Since Med Techs changed from artificer to "percy officer", anyway)
 

Karma

War Hero
Ninja_Stoker said:
Everyone will advise your CV needs a degree- fine, do it when you get paid.

I think it's worth highlighting that for some avenues the mere possession of a degree is a pre-requisite to get in the door, a number of firms just won't interview non-grads. There is also an impact on pay, again the possession of the degree adds a premium.

The possession of a higher degree or a doctorate is less valuable unless one wants to go into certain very specialised fields; biotech still isn't that mature and there is a bit of a fetish for PhDs.
 

Ninja_Stoker

War Hero
Moderator
Good points Karma,

Unless the individual requires a vocational degree to join the service (Doctor, Dentist, Engineer, Information Systems, Chaplain, Training Management etc.,) then anyone electing to get a degree before they join,would otherwise be best advised to get a vocational degree for use when they leave.
 

SB146564

Midshipman
Thanks for all the replies here, its helped quite a bit. I am a very active person and I think a sports science degree would be excellent, as I am quite interested in it. It would also help as If anything went wrong while I was in the Marines, teaching P.E In schools would be a strong 2nd career choice. It May also help in doing the PTI course In the Marines I think. As for enginneering, the uni's are looking for high grades AAB or ABB, I am more of a CCD student. Probably due to the time I like to spend in the gym. Anyways nice one for the replies.
Ste
 

slim

War Hero
SB146564 said:
Thanks for all the replies here, its helped quite a bit. I am a very active person and I think a sports science degree would be excellent, as I am quite interested in it. It would also help as If anything went wrong while I was in the Marines, teaching P.E In schools would be a strong 2nd career choice. It May also help in doing the PTI course In the Marines I think. As for enginneering, the uni's are looking for high grades AAB or ABB, I am more of a CCD student. Probably due to the time I like to spend in the gym. Anyways nice one for the replies.
Ste

Well as you're not super intelligent but can lift fings you should make a good bootie
 

Ninja_Stoker

War Hero
Moderator
Just to clarify PTI's in the RM are usually NCOs & SNCOs, not Officers, therefore a degree in sports sciences, whilst possibly useful to the individual, would not make anyone more eligible for selection than the next Marine.

Happy to stand corrected, from what I gather to become a PTI, apart from the report recommends (Two Grade 'B' RORRS), you also need to have completed (on average) at least two years General Duties as a Royal Marine Commando & successfully completed Junior Command Course before eligible to enter the selection process.
 

SB146564

Midshipman
Snd, Just a little question deviating from the subject. I'm a scouser and "One of the ladz", I heard that most officers are ******* and love givin it large to recruits. Is this true, coz I wanted to join as an officer, but am not goin to get the piss taken out of me for bein one. Ste
 

slim

War Hero
SB146564 said:
Snd, Just a little question deviating from the subject. I'm a scouser and "One of the ladz", I heard that most officers are ******* and love givin it large to recruits. Is this true, coz I wanted to join as an officer, but am not goin to get the piss taken out of me for bein one. Ste

If thats the way you feel then I believe that you would be better off joining one of the Liverpool football teams supporters associations.
 

Ninja_Stoker

War Hero
Moderator
SB146564 said:
Snd, Just a little question deviating from the subject. I'm a scouser and "One of the ladz", I heard that most officers are ******* and love givin it large to recruits. Is this true, coz I wanted to join as an officer, but am not goin to get the piss taken out of me for bein one. Ste

Call it a combination of destiny, divine intervention & intuition, but my advice would most definitely be to contact your local careers office & I'm sure they would be delighted to confirm your eligibility, alleviate your preconceptions and point you in the right direction.

Good luck to you, Ste. :thumright:
 

sara21

Lantern Swinger
Ninja_Stoker said:
SB146564 said:
Snd, Just a little question deviating from the subject. I'm a scouser and "One of the ladz", I heard that most officers are ******* and love givin it large to recruits. Is this true, coz I wanted to join as an officer, but am not goin to get the piss taken out of me for bein one. Ste

Call it a combination of destiny, divine intervention & intuition, but my advice would most definitely be to contact your local careers office & I'm sure they would be delighted to confirm your eligibility, alleviate your preconceptions and point you in the right direction.

Good luck to you, Ste. :thumright:

Surely if you are "one of the lads" and can relate to your average "lad" this would actually make you a better officer? If you have the potential go for it!
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I thought the whole point of Officer Cadets messing with the Junior Ratings during IST was to ensure that they had an understanding of life as a Junior Rating. And to ensure that they do not have that attitude of "giving it large to the recruits."
 

Ninja_Stoker

War Hero
Moderator
I've yet to meet an officer "giving it large" to recruits, frankly.

Generally speaking, as a rating you rarely meet Officers other than inspecting ones whilst in phase one training. The "shouty" people tend to be mostly Leading Hands, Petty Officers & Chief Petty Officers in the early days of training.

I've yet to see an Admiral "giving it large", although I could easily forgive them in some instances if they chose to, "m8". :thumright:
 

sara21

Lantern Swinger
I think that P_O was trying to say that it would be easy for an arrogant newbie Sub-Lt, who could not relate to the young rates he would be working with on IST, to get carried away with himself and end up giving it the big 'I am'.
 

Ninja_Stoker

War Hero
Moderator
I happen to agree with P_O, Sara, it's uninformed rubbish like this I have a problem with:

SB146564 said:
"One of the ladz", I heard that most officers are ******* and love givin it large to recruits.
 
Ninja_Stoker said:
I happen to agree with P_O, Sara, it's uninformed rubbish like this I have a problem with:

SB146564 said:
"One of the ladz", I heard that most officers are ******* and love givin it large to recruits.

I too have a problem with that, yet to meet an Officer (of any branch) who is a "******" (come next December looking in the mirror might change that). And as N_S says when does an Officer "give it large"? Intentionally going out of his way to be a nuisance, aiming to irritate those he is supposed to lead. Not quite sure what the OP is going on about there.
 

SB146564

Midshipman
Sorry If it came across wrong, I have no experience withthe royal marines at all as of yet. I had heard though, True or not, that some officers like people too know they are the boss. Like sarah said, a newbie 2nd lieutenant who gives it the big I am. From books I have read, thats the way officers have been portrayed.
The last thing I wanted was to upset anyone or drivel on about stuff I don't know. Just lookin for what they are really like, from ppl that have been there, and done it.
ste
 
SB146564 said:
Sorry If it came across wrong, I have no experience withthe royal marines at all as of yet. I had heard though, True or not, that some officers like people too know they are the boss. Like sarah said, a newbie 2nd lieutenant who gives it the big I am. From books I have read, thats the way officers have been portrayed.
The last thing I wanted was to upset anyone or drivel on about stuff I don't know. Just lookin for what they are really like, from ppl that have been there, and done it.
ste

If you have been watching the programme Commando, you will know that neither of the two Officers followed in the programme are like that, both have earnt their places as leaders. It is exactly for this reason that Royal Marines Officers have a harder test to earn their Green Beret, such as the 30 miler in one hour less than the Recruits.

I know one RM Officer quite well, and he has always seemed to me to have been a born leader, he never needed to "give it the big I am" because his leadership abilities said it for him. Definately the sort of man, that if I were a Marine I would trust to take me into combat.

If you want to join the Corps, best thing you can do is try and get down to the Royal Marines Museum, a good day out and you will see how the Marines have managed to earn their reputation as one of the world's best fighting forces.
 
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