Degtree's in Uni for the Marines

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  1. Hi, Am currently doing A2 at college, wanting to go on to University and then to the marines To become a RM Officer. Any Ideas what Degree's would be useful to have in the Marines, or has anyone done a degree and what in?
     
  2. Diggin holes :dwarf:
     
  3. i havent done any degrees as such but i know the forces like maths :p erm and to be a RM officer, dont want to be too much of a influence but how does a engineering degree sound?
     
  4. Surely unless he wants to be an Engineer in the Marines, Engineering isn't going to help much!

    Any proper degree (i.e. not a Mickey Mouse Degree) will help, it shows that you have the determination to buckle down and study for 3 years. It is not essential neither the officer in the Commando Programme nor the Officer I know in Cdo Logs at the moment have degrees.
     
  5. Education is never wasted.
     
  6. So speaks the voice of experience...

    fwiw the value of a degree programme where it's not directly vocational would be the learning skills, and the life skills associated with being out of the spoonfed environment of the school system. In that sense most serious degree programmes should benefit the individual as long as the time isn't just spent pissing up.

    For the specific officer branches in the RM; communications engineering, information systems, electronic engineering will have value should one wish to specialise signals. Sports science should one wish to be a PT & sports officer.

    Politics or economics could be quite useful if one is planning on a full career.

    The more general point would be, if you're capable of a degree then think about the long term. What might be useful when you leave.
     
  7. chieftiff

    chieftiff War Hero Moderator

    I agree with Karma, another possible along the politics front (RM Officer friend has this) Degree in International Relations.

    As Slim points out education is never wasted, although if you're not careful it can be irrelevant, stick with something you are interested in that you may wish to pursue later on.

    PS, a day without Mathematics is a day wasted, maths stimulates logical thought, imagination and patience. An education will not make you clever, but it may make you appear so :dwarf:
     
  8. Diggin holes is Engineerin
     
  9. Knowing where to dig them is geology!

    Karma I think that is basically what I said in the second part of my post! I just didn't think the OP should be fixed on engineering, especially as the degrees in International Relations, Politics, Geography or History to add to those mentioned, could be just as valuable.
     
  10. Contributor Mode

    Peace Studies perhaps.

    Nutty
     
  11. Killing.......?????
    Shooting....???????
    Being Fit....??????
    Basket weaving.....????
    Ask the recruiting office or visit the web site
     
  12. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    A degree isn't necessary to become a Royal Marines Officer.

    If you want a vocational degree for when you leave the Royal Marines, then do a degree that is going to be of use to you afterwards.

    Funnily enough I spoke to two undergraduates today, one doing a Degree in Forensic Science, the other doing a degree in Criminal Psychology. Are they any use if you want to be a Forensic Scientist or Criminal Psychologist?

    Nope, they're both absolutely bloody useless degrees. But the universities make heaps of money out of them. All that's learnt is the history of each, not the actual subject.

    Beware being conned into wasting 3 years & getting thousands of pounds in debt when you can be earning money, being trained & benefiting from experience & seniority. If you join after A2 & your "twin" goes to Uni, you stand to have 3 years seniority & £75 000 more money before your twin even starts to actually do the job & stops theorising about the abstract concept of earning a living, rather than playing the governments education game & earning a debt.

    Is a degree in Public Services or Uniformed Services going to be of use? Nope again, nor is an NVQ in Uniform services, unless you want to be a teacher/lecturer in the subject & teach the next wave of gullible individuals.

    Everyone will advise your CV needs a degree- fine, do it when you get paid.

    Best of luck in your degree. :thumright:
     
  13. I didn't have an issue with the second part of your post. In the broader sense of university education being valuable an engineering degree has as much value as anything else.

    In the long term hard sciences, maths and engineering seem to have more longevity in the job market.
     
  14. Don't these statements contradict each other? I would agree that any real degree shows the ability and gives practice at the cerebral skill required as you progress. My personal opinion is that you should go for a degree and then look to a Masters study programme later in your career.

    NS, question, isn't it still correct that as an 18 year old (on entry) non-grad you will have the same seniority as a 21 year old (on entry) grad (in the same Batch) when you both reach age 23 years of age?

    IMD
     
  15. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    I'm going out on a limb here, as I don't have anything to reference this at present, but...

    A 21 graduate would join nowadays, I believe, with 1 year's seniority compared to an 18 year-old joiner achieving 3 years seniority at age 21. I'm happy to stand corrected on this, because Officer seniority is not my strong point.

    If your statement is still correct, the graduate would still, on average, join with a £15K debt, having earned about £60k less in wages, before joining. In this instance the graduate, upon reaching seniority parity will have earned around 2 years' experience + 3years' seniority & £40k income compared to the non-graduates' £115k & 5 years genuine experience.

    It is arguable which would be more suitable for selection for promotion, however if the graduate was smart enough to do a vocational degree, it's validity & currency would diminish the longer he/she served. A veritable conundrum.
     
  16. an BEng degree will get you some ground
     
  17. As long as you don't crack one of the bollicks BA's in "1940's spanish silent films" you'll be ok

    My general adivice would be unless you are doing a specific vocational degree to follow a career path, choose something you enjoy, you'll get a lot more out of it
     
  18. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    Indeed it will if you want to be an engineer in the RN or after you leave the Royal Marines, however, it will not make you anymore "selectable" to join the RM's in the first place.
     
  19. Also bear in mind that I have met several RMs "other ranks" who have degrees. Getting a degree does not mean that you have to be an officer.
     
  20. Indeed, I have a degree ( BEng Electronic Engineering with computing) yet I applied as a rating because I wanted the hands on experience of working directly with ROV (MCM) not just telling someone to put the ROV in the water and look for a mine.

    Once I have that experience I may push on for an officer role non commissioned or otherwise.
     

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