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Art the Fart
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Just been comparing 2000 figures with 2014's. RN Full-time Regulars
In 2000 there was 1 officer to 7 ratings
In 2014 1 officer to 4 ratings
In 2000 there was 1 officer to 7 ratings
In 2014 1 officer to 4 ratings
Here we go again, start of the month, a regular cock at work.
Arrange a contract with CAPITA as HMS Belfast does in home waters
Can recognize the disease, but rely on the more enlightened to provide the cure.#
So I was off to the Legion.#
3Badge Tanky and the Chief Yeoman were there.
Tanky disappeared, not understanding the question, for a game of Shove Ha'penny
The Chief yeoman, arms waving, put forward a solution
All Officers' ships.
Pre-packed frozen meals with many microwaves provided.
A hamper from Fortnum and Mason. Their St James's Hamper @ £1,000.00 would keep them sustained during their long hours at sea. (Cheaper with bulk buying)
Gieves and Hawkes Sleeping Bags
Many Ironing Points.
So far as cleaning the ship:- he suggested.
Arrange a contract with CAPITA as HMS Belfast does in home waters
and Overseas the Naval Attaché could arrange for the nearest dock-side hotel to come and do it.
Can recognize the disease, but rely on the more enlightened to provide the cure.#
So I was off to the Legion.#
3Badge Tanky and the Chief Yeoman were there.
Tanky disappeared, not understanding the question, for a game of Shove Ha'penny
The Chief yeoman, arms waving, put forward a solution
All Officers' ships.
Pre-packed frozen meals with many microwaves provided.
A hamper from Fortnum and Mason. Their St James's Hamper @ £1,000.00 would keep them sustained during their long hours at sea. (Cheaper with bulk buying)
Gieves and Hawkes Sleeping Bags
Many Ironing Points.
So far as cleaning the ship:- he suggested.
Arrange a contract with CAPITA as HMS Belfast does in home waters
and Overseas the Naval Attaché could arrange for the nearest dock-side hotel to come and do it.
A lot of other factors, that were way beyond my pay grade 'back in the day' will also be in play, but it does seem on paper that the reduction in the number of Indians far outweighs the reduction in the number of Chiefs
Arrange a contract with CAPITA as HMS Belfast does in home waters
Who does the cleaning when HMS Belfast is on deployment?
Does HMS Belfast go anywhere else?
I understood she costs some £100,000.00 just to lie there rotting doing nothing.
Who does the cleaning when HMS Belfast is on deployment?
I would suggest you wait until at least 1900 before cracking open your Aldi sherry in future.
We have this same conversation far too regularly on here and the same things have to continuously be explained. Defence has changed, the RN isn't just about ships anymore and you can't put ABs at many of these tables where we need equivalent rank to the other two.
Monty, the RN has always been about ships, they are the pointy bit, the projection of power, sub surface, surface and the ones that carry the bits that fly, all the land based part of the RN should be there in support of the fleet, training, logistics, control and oversight.
I also note that you seem to equate ratings with ABs, I read Arts initial post to cover ALL ratings, and as a SR yourself, I am sure you have noticed the change in levels of responsibility given to SRs over the years.
No Slight taken Monty, and I am 20 yeas, 1 month out of the loop, and yes jointery is a major factor, but the RN is the sea based arm of the armed forces, it should be about how we are able to project power, whether it be surface, sub surface, air arm or the RM. It seems we are being blinkered by the current global climate, with the IS/ISIS & Middle East, historically too many times the armed forces have been reduced just before they were needed, and the RN seems to bear the brunt.
It takes time to build a ship, it takes time to train the crews, we no longer have the ship building capability to build more than a few hulls at a time, tanks, aircraft, artillery etc can be produce on a production line, our current production capability for all the land and air based equipment can be increased in less time than it takes to get a ship built, this is the point that should be hammered home to the powers that be.