The Tamworth thing got me thinking a bit. Ouch. I have a peculiar affinity for some towns which are considered shitholes, particularly ooop north. By the same token we have some incredibly dull dumps down south don't we? Good northern shitholes: Stoke-on-Trent, York, Newcastle, Ull, Birmingham, Sheffield (no, really). Oh, and Tamworth. Shit northern shitholes: Wolverhampton, Blackpool, Rotherham, Burnley, Scunthorpe. Good poncey southern shandy drinking villages: London, Bath, Frampton-on-Severn (long story), bits of Bristol, Hastings, lots of little places in the four western counties. Shit poncey southern shandy drinking villages: London, the 'ring' of Swindon/Reading/Oxford and bloody bloody Luton - those four are even worse than Rotherham. Luton is worse than twelve Rotherhams. Just my views, obviously based on personal experience (apart from Luton - that is fact) and no offence to any who live in said shitholes, my adopted city is a 'city that thinks it's a village' anyhow and though I like it it's not because it's good, it's just because I live here and have got used to it. Same goes for the town for that matter, right dull old dump.