Councillors refuse to stand for war hero

#5
The names of the two councillors say it all.
Interesting that you focus on their names rather than the well recognised stance on both Iraq and Afghanistan of their party which is not aligned to race or creed; the internet is massive but your comments can still be considered a waste of cyber space...
 
#6
Interesting that you focus on their names rather than the well recognised stance on both Iraq and Afghanistan of their party which is not aligned to race or creed; the internet is massive but your comments can still be considered a waste of cyber space...
Their stance on Iraq and Afghanistan is irrelevant where this is concerned, they should have shown respect for a very brave young man by standing.


You may not like the content of my posts but I am as entitled as you are to air my views.
 
#7
As are they, regardless of name/race/colour/stance on Iraq or Afghanistan.

Countless men and women lost their lives in two world wars so that we could stand up (or not) and air our views.

I will take nothing away from the bravery that man showed in Afghanistan, but all citizens of this country are entitled to the right of free speech (apart from racists/xenophobes/homophobes etc of course).
Indeed they are but as mini-politiians they should have stood as they represent the public the majority of which like me are not impressed.
 
#8
Their stance on Iraq and Afghanistan is irrelevant where this is concerned, they should have shown respect for a very brave young man by standing.


You may not like the content of my posts but I am as entitled as you are to air my views.
Yes you are entitled to air your views as am I and I did. SJRM epxresses my view on it exactly. It would be impudent of me to say I served with Matt Croucher as we were in different detachments of the same unit and our paths only crossed the once; on that occasion he struck me as self-assured, focused and open. From such limited knowledge of the man I could not say with any certainty whether he took offence, but, if I had to guess at his reaction to the 'news' that these two councillors declined to stand and applaud him, I'd be surprised if he were to be setting the destination board on the outrage bus.
 
#9
They represent the people who voted for them, not the whole country, thats how the political system works; i.e. they don't represent you unless you voted for them.

Do you even live in that council area?

Thank for the insight into how our political system works, most illuminating!

No I do not live in that area as if that had anything to do with it.
 
#12
So, given that you are now arguing your case on their position as councillors rather than their assumed cultural background, do we take it that your initial tack was ill judged and demonstrated a good dose of prejudice?

Their obligation as councillors is to act in accordance with the policies they presented to their ward in the hope of being elected, that and to act within the law. It's interesting that people criticise politicians for not holding true to the promises and principles expressed in their manifestos but when these two do so you, amongst others, complain.

By the way, there is nothing 'mini' about them, a councillor is a politician.
 
#15
So, given that you are now arguing your case on their position as councillors rather than their assumed cultural background, do we take it that your initial tack was ill judged and demonstrated a good dose of prejudice?

Their obligation as councillors is to act in accordance with the policies they presented to their ward in the hope of being elected, that and to act within the law. It's interesting that people criticise politicians for not holding true to the promises and principles expressed in their manifestos but when these two do so you, amongst others, complain.

By the way, there is nothing 'mini' about them, a councillor is a politician.
No I am arguing my case on both counts and as far as I am concerned councillors are mini- politicians hoping to get on-board the Westminster gravy train with the big boys.
 
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Edit: In fact, I can't be arsed. I can see where this thread is going.
 
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#18
I very much doubt Matt would give a flying toss if they stood up or not. Did he save his fellow marines for fame ? I think not.
 
#19
I very much doubt Matt would give a flying toss if they stood up or not. Did he save his fellow marines for fame ? I think not.

I am sure you are correct but that is not the matter to hand. These two represenatives failed to show respect and failed miserably where good manners are concerned. As far as I am concerned they are little better than the scum who shout abuse to our troops returning from active service.
 
#20
Yes quimby I also think they should of stood up as a matter of respect. It don't matter what colour or religion
these people are, a death deserves respect.
 
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