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Conspiracy, what conspiracy?

drewfester

Lantern Swinger
I have been musing over this thread for some time now and I find that PT's deletion of the original thread mentioned at the start of the thread, breaches Article 10 of the Human Rights Act 1998, which quite clearly states the RIGHT of human expression!
Surely posting about the article refered to was covered by that?
To delete an article, because he couldn't be arsed ( others words) to moderate properly, and put his holiday above the HRA and the right to free speech makes it a very sad day for Rum Ration and Freedom.
Not a good move from an apparently worldly wise individual who circles in the corridors of power!!!
 

jrwlynch

Lantern Swinger
I have been musing over this thread for some time now and I find that PT's deletion of the original thread mentioned at the start of the thread, breaches Article 10 of the Human Rights Act 1998, which quite clearly states the RIGHT of human expression!

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SONAR-BENDER

War Hero
OK, OK - I give in! Here is 'that' letter that caused all the original pain and angst. Apologies to the original writer/poster, as I cannot remember who it was. Names of RNR Units have been removed by me.


Open letter to Scottish Royal Naval Reserve Units

Dear All,

It has been a joy serving with you, many of the real characters of the RNR live and work in Scotland, but it's time to reflect that, in about ten days, you will be part of a foreign navy; as such I thought I should help you prepare for this; I have assumed that you will plan to remain "HMS" as Alex S has said he will "keep the Queen" as it were, and that HM will graciously agree to this.

1. Please return all UK publications to the appropriate store, as these will no longer be relevant to running your new navy.
2. Likewise all publications for NATO and EU formations - I suggest you send these back to Northwood, doubtless they can send them back when/if your membership applications are successful. The bill for postage of these should be sent to SNP HQ.
3. All your cap tallies will need to be re-made. HMSS has rather ugly connotations, but there it is.
4. Order shoulder flashes saying "Scotland" - only UK forces wear no country identifier in square or fore-and-aft rigs.
5. Your white fleet vehicles may be retained - I suspect that they are leased anyway and that the appropriate contractor will be more than happy to charge you again. However any green fleet will have to be returned.
6. You wont be allowed to drive them anyway - your MOD driving permit will be invalidated.
7. Please don't apply for any courses south of the border, you won't hold the appropriate clearance, fortunately Collingwood and BRNC both have teams who run courses for foreign sailors - give them a bell.
8. Recruiting should be easier as you won't have to deal with the problems that we have had in recent months.
9. New recruits only have to swear allegiance to Uncle Alex, that might speed things up a bit.
10. Officers may be allowed to hook-up their swords - I understand that it was RN officers who lost that privilege, so that no longer applies.
11. Conversely you will have to stand for the loyal toast, as that, too was a privilege granted to the RN.
12. You may become the host nation for JW - Oh, wait, forget that - Uncle Alex won't allow nuclear power, so you will be losing that.
13. You will have to return your ID cards - I'm pretty sure that holding an ID card for an organisation you no longer work for is a no-no.
14. You are going to get a great base at Faslane; you get to keep the peace-camp types too - please.
15. I have Googled "RSNR" and, fortunately, there are only two other shown uses: "Red Springs and Northern Railroad" in USA and "Realized Path Signal-to-Noise Ratio" whatever that is.
16. If, however, HM does not allow the HMS status then SNR, however, is The Society for Nautical Research, quite apt.
17. You will have to invent a new version of "Taking the Queen's Shilling" You are not going to share the currency, sorry.
18. Can't speak for anyone else, but do keep having Trafalgar Night Dinners, it should help irritate the SNP.

Well, that’s it for the time being, doubtless you will have lots of hoops to jump through in the coming months, but I wish you all well. If I think of anything else I'll be along...







So, you'll all be asking - WTF was all the fuss about!

If I don't post for a couple of days I've been banned!!
 

Purple_twiglet

War Hero
Moderator
It was (as I and others noted) a funny and witty post. The problem with it was timing and the matter of the guidance to HM Forces on what to say at the time that proved challenging when set against the post, and a campaign where even 'humorous' stories got media coverage.

Given some of the commentators who replied to it were serving RNR, there was a major worry that it could have very serious consequences for them, particularly if it had been seen by the media. Hence, much easier to ask for a temporary pause to lookout for our serving shipmates.

I shall leave our budding lawyers to return to their ECHR submissions...
 

drewfester

Lantern Swinger
Right, let's lay this down on the line, You PT, deleted someone's opinion because it did not tally with your own, on, despite what you may say, an open PUBLIC website (anyone in the world can view ALL comments on this site), that is your demise!
You foolishly think that by deleting a thread it is gone forever, however in cyberspace evidence exists and full transactions will be available if sought by a court of law!
You exposed yourself to the real world, made comments about what you to / did and then tried to cover it up by pressing the "delete button"
May I remind you, and all who use this site, "Anoniminity is not an excuse in the eyes of the law". Remember that!!!
lets note:-
1:- The reason the thread in question was deleted was because I have a fairly intermittent connection up here, and the moderating tools are a pain to use, particularly on the iPad. Bluntly rather than waste more of my precious holiday than I needed to dealing with the inane ramblings you come up with and tidily moderating it, I just hit delete. Frankly I think it is no loss to humanity. Your quote

2:-
It was (as I and others noted) a funny and witty post. The problem with it was timing and the matter of the guidance to HM Forces on what to say at the time that proved challenging when set against the post, and a campaign where even 'humorous' stories got media coverage.

Given some of the commentators who replied to it were serving RNR, there was a major worry that it could have very serious consequences for them, particularly if it had been seen by the media. Hence, much easier to ask for a temporary pause to lookout for our serving shipmates.

I shall leave our budding lawyers to return to their ECHR submissions...

You, have contradicted yourself to the enth degree! You have shown yourself to be without good judgement and moderation skills as you have proven, if someone "makes" you, you delete the post!
Leave, before your pushed!
Which is it? You've compromised yourself and you know it!!
 

drewfester

Lantern Swinger
Is that it so far?? 2 brained ads and a bullshit.??
Bbbbbbbbbaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!,!!
The truth hurts, get over it!!!
 

Ageing_Gracefully

War Hero
Moderator
Review Editor
Book Reviewer
I would just like to point out that there are other websites available.

If you don't like what happens here then just go - quietly please.

If, on the other hand you are posting purely to wind up, or 'score points' on an internet forum where points are worth feck all, then please continue and post what you wish. Just be prepared for someone to get rid of it.

Remember, we are here to please,



just not necessarily you.
 

drewfester

Lantern Swinger
This is an open post to all moderators, what was the last issue of McNae's you read?
I suggest that some need to read it, I have as I need to be up to date, not back in the stone ages!
 

Seadog

War Hero
Moderator
This is an open post to all moderators, what was the last issue of McNae's you read?
I suggest that some need to read it, I have as I need to be up to date, not back in the stone ages!

An "open post"? When posted in open forum, is there another kind?

McNae: any relation to McNab? He gets his masking tape off for the boys these days. Being able to recognise him in a Gregg's queue gives one a certain Hereford cred. Hey Andy, give my regards to Dinger.
 

Ageing_Gracefully

War Hero
Moderator
Review Editor
Book Reviewer
McNae is guidance to journos on how to act proper. (Googled it to see) I wonder if drewfest is a journo and if so what is he looking for on this site? Seems PT may have been spot on with his actions.
 

Tanzi

Lantern Swinger
I wonder if drewfest is a journo and if so what is he looking for on this site? Seems PT may have been spot on with his actions.

Oooo ! Slapped wrist for you from purple helmet. Or is it one rule for posters and another rule for mods ?

"May I gently advise you that trying to smoke out a user and compromise their identity by publicly posting what you believe to be facts about them and who they really are and what they do is considered completely unacceptable conduct here. If people choose to self identify themselves then that is their decision, but it is not for others to try and force this information into the public domain."
 

slim

War Hero
Seems to me that the MODs answer to anyone disagreeing with them is piss off to another site.
You are ALL welcome of course to ROMFT.
However how much longer will it be before most of RR have pissed off and the MODs are left with just each other to Moderate.
What a load of fun the site will be then.
MODs really should think before telling people to leave the site, don't think the site owners would be very pleased if numbers fell and payment generation (advertising) followed
 

drewfester

Lantern Swinger
An "open post"? When posted in open forum, is there another kind?

McNae: any relation to McNab? He gets his masking tape off for the boys these days. Being able to recognise him in a Gregg's queue gives one a certain Hereford cred. Hey Andy, give my regards to Dinger.

Oh Seadog!!! Don't tell PT this is a public site, he seems to think it is a private one (obviously it isn't) and just to clarify, I am not a journo I just happen to have had a decent education and am knowledgeable in various topics.
The MOD's on here certainly do try and gang up on those who question their way of doing things, I seem to be o remember another post where an individual questioned a MOD, the thread then descended into a MOD's verses the individual thread.
In my opinion (see I protect my self by stating my opinion) ALL the MOD's need some serious training in what they are supposed to be doing because as previously stated by Slim, they just tell everyone to piss off.
Why won't they piss off ???
 

mikh

MIA
This is really going nowhere, members vs the mods comes around on a regular basis and all it does is piss someone off (well a few someone's).

I did not agree with PTs actions on the original thread, I made my opinion known, and at that point I decided 'end of' as I knew it would make not a blind bit of difference what I thought, and I also knew what would happen if the disagreement with a mod was carried on, which was basically the mods would form circle and defend the original moderators action, at least one mod will say that 'if you do not like it you can always go elsewhere' or word to that effect (on this occasion it was AG, and it was probably the politest I have seen it put across). I honestly do not remember a single occasion where a mods deletion/amendment of a post or thread has been back tracked, or an admission that they have got it wrong.

Although, you have to admit, a mod gripe does seem to liven the site up somewhat
 

Seadog

War Hero
Moderator
In the bit of the site that isn't public, there have been occasions when mods have disagreed on a course of action before or after it has been taken. This has resulted in the restoration of a complete post, text or reinstatement of a banned member, or the halting of executive action. We don't always agree, different perspectives are brought to the table. Contrary to what some would have you/us believe, moderation is not done on a whim, unless it's spam, links to porn etc when consultation, before or retrospectively is not expected or required.

Personally, sometimes I have regretted speaking up for certain posters who turn out to be bigger c0cks than I thought possible.
 

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