Commandos and marines

[Chockheads_WM]

How about instead of having just the Royal Marines Commandos, also just have marines.
The marines would be the lads who go for training but just can't reach that commando status, they just can't pass the commando tests or something. These would be the lads who could do all the 'undesirable' specialisations like driver, chef etc.
Those lads who could pass the test would then be the commandos and be the infantry in the units getting more experience in the GD role.

Isn't that how it's always been ?

 

[oldseadog]

The toughest men in the world wear 3 chevrons topped with a crown, and they provide the victuals for us mere mortals!

Can anyone out there tell me of anyone who has won an argument with WO2 Cook?

Even the Sneakies and the Regiment know their place!

OSD

 

[Beejay]

All Royal Marines are commando's. But not all commando's are not Royal Marines :?

 

[oldseadog]

All Royal Marines are commando's. But not all commando's are not Royal Marines :?

Pardon??
I think that you meant to say "All Royal Marines are commandos. But not all commandos are Royal Marines"

OSD

 

[Beejay]

All Royal Marines are commando's. But not all commando's are not Royal Marines :?

Pardon??
I think that you meant to say "All Royal Marines are commandos. But not all commandos are Royal Marines"

OSD

You could be right :!:

 

[watch_and_shoot]

How about instead of having just the Royal Marines Commandos, also just have marines.
The marines would be the lads who go for training but just can't reach that commando status, they just can't pass the commando tests or something. These would be the lads who could do all the 'undesirable' specialisations like driver, chef etc.
Those lads who could pass the test would then be the commandos and be the infantry in the units getting more experience in the GD role.

Whilst I totally understand where your coming from mate, I have one thing to say:

If it aint broken - dont try and fix it!!!

Spenny

 

[Jimmy_Green]

RM bandies aren't commandos are they?

 

[TurboThreaders]

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[dunkers]

As I understand it, bandies do the first 15 weeks of RM training (which does not include the commando bits?) before going on to bandsman training but I may well be wrong.

 

[Guns]

Col Gardner tells a good story of why Marine first specialist second.

His Cdo was on exercise and an armoured thrust broke through and threaterned to over run. A small team of Clerks and Chefs formed up and halted that attack. His opinion was "I didn't ask them to do it, they were not ordered to do it, they did it. Because it was their duty and because they are fighting Marines first."

Look at teh RSM for the Cdo's and you will see a mixed bag of specialties, the main theme is that all will have served front line and leading men.

Mind you who remembers the old days of Marine WRNS, wore a Globe and Laural instead of a cap tally.

 

[Beejay]

no JG they are not. they wear a shoulder flash saying "ROYAL MARINES BAND SERVICE" and have not passed/taken the Commando Course.

i dont know if they are taught any military skills or go through a basic training as such or whether they stick to drill and music. anyone have the answer?

When we had Fleets of BIG SHIPS the RM Bandsmen on board were trained to work in the Fighter Direction Room, sick bays when at action stations

But as we now only have a fleet of MFVs I don't think they go to sea anymore :!:

 

[Jimmy_Green]

All Royal Marines are commando's. But not all commando's are not Royal Marines :?

RM bandies aren't commandos are they?

I posed my question in response to Beejay's comment.

However, if a RM bandy, who is not a commando undertakes the all arms course, would he be recognised as a 'proper' RM Commando? Does anybody know if this has ever been done?