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Closure of a Dockyard.

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DingDong

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What I find most dispicable is that Porstmouths' NBC has got himself on the front page of the Pompey new saying that he is going to take on the other two to ensure survival, where's the team ethos?

Mike Hancock has yet again found someone to do his dirty work for him. What exactly does he do for the city?? We're reaping the rewards of letting him back in now.

In reality we should be turning our attention to the RAF, who have as many air stations as they do squadrons, yet they refuse to base more than one type of aircraft at any one station. Not to mention the fact that if they streamlined their technical trades, they could probably shave 10,000 people out of their strength.

How exactly do you close one of the dockyards when they all offer different services?
 
Congratulations on your total grasp of aero engineering and airworthiness requirements. It may be equalled by your understanding of aircraft operation and the various limitations on it.
 
the only limitations placed on air ops are the fact that we let the crabs exist. the RN/RM and ARMY would be much better at employing Air Power
 
Passed-over_Loggie said:
Ah yes. I remember Sandy Woodward well. A total grasp of warfare in 3 dimensions; as long it had water round it.
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And probably the best grasp in his generation as well.

Peter
 
You mean the man that used Invincible as a type 42?
I kid you not have none of you heard of Op Canbelow or the 2 other times she entered the coastal waters due to the fact that we had lost Coventry & Sheffield with Galsgow damaged by then. Leaving only Exeter & Cardiff.
Have you not read Sharkey Wards book about the Falklands?
IMHO Woodward didnt understand Air warfare.
 
Its very easy to criticise from 24 years on, someone who had to make very hard decisions under a lot of pressure. Maybe it was him who could see the bigger picture...
 
disagree, 2 major assets Hermes & Invincible, he said himself that if he lost one of these, he would have had to call things off. but heyho 24 years on we can all look back.
 
chockhead819 said:
You mean the man that used Invincible as a type 42?
I kid you not have none of you heard of Op Canbelow or the 2 other times she entered the coastal waters due to the fact that we had lost Coventry & Sheffield with Galsgow damaged by then. Leaving only Exeter & Cardiff.
Have you not read Sharkey Wards book about the Falklands?
IMHO Woodward didnt understand Air warfare.
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I never said he did understand air warfare, but he did know the game underwater, and that is what I said and will stand by.
 
Well, that clears up the dockyard closure debate then. Just close down both Devonport and Pompey and leave Yeovilton and Culdrose fully open to keep the wafus happy. All you now need is some aircraft to fly and maintain and we will all be sorted. :)

Nice one.
 
" All you now need is some aircraft to fly and maintain and we will all be sorted. "

Hang on that sound like the crab spin from the 60s & 70s, **** it better keep talking about ships!! lol
 
chockhead819 said:
" All you now need is some aircraft to fly and maintain and we will all be sorted. "

Hang on that sound like the crab spin from the 60s & 70s, **** it better keep talking about ships!! lol
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Didn’t that include the claim `we can defend the fleet anywhere in the world no mater where they are` you don’t need expensive carriers and escorts!
 
OK, back to thread.

GUZ has access to open seas and stacks of room. The Amphib assets are there and it's handy for the Booties. It's in a high unemployment area.

Pompey has busy sea-lanes and loads of choke points. It's in a low unemployment area.

Faslane has the V Boats and water deep enough to take the Carriers. It's close to Lossie, whatever A/C goes in the Carriers. The Jock Mafia would never allow its closure.

I had a good 10 years in Pompey and I'll be sad to see the Base close.
 
Mind if the firkin government started to invest a bit more in the forces and stop using them as a way of making savings all the time, there would be no need to close any dockyard.

We are going to be up shit creak without a paddle before much longer, if they continue to keep closing bases.

Added:- Perhaps if the government stopped giving money to immigrants to come into the country and more money for them to get out, then there would be enough to once again have the best forces in the world.
 
There is apparently strong pressure form the Treasury to cancel 2 T45s, presumably to pay for the extra cash for service in war zones.

Dear old Gordon gives with one hand and takes away even more with the other.

Peter
 

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