Closest thing to IT tecchie?

#1
Hi,

I'm looking to join the RN, and while I want a role that's going to be a challenge and force me to learn a lot of new skills, I would like something that retains some usage of the skills I already have. I'm currently an IT repair tecchie - repairing laptops, macs, phones, all kinds of gadgets and even a little bit of data recovery. What would be the closest role to that? Who takes care of all the IT hardware on ship?

I've heard some people say that falls under the responsibility of the weapons engineer, CIS specialist or communications tech. I tried asking at the careers office but it seemed they couldn't shed much light on the subject.

If anybody could help clear that up for me and give me a little advice, that would be great.

Thanks
 
#2
The closest job to fixing things electrical etc is ET(WE) (if you can find one that is awake). Shame on the Careers Office for not giving you the right information. Let me know which one it was and I will stop all their leave until they buck their ideas up..
 
#3
To be fair to the Careers Office, no-one really knows what's going on with CIS and WE yet, anyway. They'll probably get smashed together and create an RN version of the RAF and we all know how well that turned out...
 

Ninja_Stoker

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#4
In my experience, the closest thing to an RN IT "Tecchie" (or more correctly ET[WE] ) is usually a mattress to his back & a pillow to his schwad.
 
#5
Speaking from a submarine viewpoint, and as a Communication Information Systems Engineer, the IT techies are the CIS ratings. My guys are the ones who look after the onboard IT systems, not the ET(WESM)s. The CIS branch is being integrated into the WE dept. Hence them being my guys while I'm a WE Officer.
 

janner

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#6
The closest job to fixing things electrical etc is ET(WE) (if you can find one that is awake). Shame on the Careers Office for not giving you the right information. Let me know which one it was and I will stop all their leave until they buck their ideas up..
Eli tells me that it was some grumpy clanky from the Liverpool office
 
#7
When i was on my PRNC they told me that the ETWE were being split up into 3 different groups

Weapons
Radars
Communications (CIS)

But the change wont be happening for another year or so yet
 

Ninja_Stoker

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#8
Sounds awfully like the OM/WE disaster of a decade back.

Obviously the time is ripe for another under-employed SO1 to bugger-up everything once again, re-invent the wheel, leave the mob and leave it in disarray.

Engineering Branch Development, Artificer/Technician de-enrichment, Farraday, call it what you will.....
 
#9
Sounds awfully like the OM/WE disaster of a decade back.

Obviously the time is ripe for another under-employed SO1 to bugger-up everything once again, re-invent the wheel, leave the mob and leave it in disarray.

Engineering Branch Development, Artificer/Technician de-enrichment, Farraday, call it what you will.....
Happy daze due to some of that, joined up as an OEM and left as an MEA! At least I didn't end up as a woo.
 

Ninja_Stoker

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#10
Anyone remember the Betts Report which outlined the folly of a two-tier management system? The upper tier had management experience without practical subject matter experience in the technical trades. Upshot, a lot of clever, disconnected & under-employed individuals, aka, the "good ideas club".
 

Ninja_Stoker

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#12
Which in itself was a reincarnation of 'proper' gunners and tas-apes, who used to shoot the kit and maintain it.

We go round and round in roughly 20 year cycles.....
Really ?

If cleaning is maintaining, then yes. Not an expert on the history of Gunners or TAS Apes but I've not seen a Gunner fixing a weapons lift or a TAS ape maintain a weapons system in my time. OEMs and WEMs I have, but perhaps they did 40+ years ago, I'm sure someone will illuminate.
 

wave_dodger

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#14
They'll probably get smashed together and create an RN version of the RAF and we all know how well that turned out...
Hate to say this but TG4(RAF trade group for CIS) was really well put together, and their Branch (Communications Engineers)are a good bunch, who are smart, well trained and compete exceptionally well for all joint CIS posts.

In this respect, the RAF have got it sorted.
 

wave_dodger

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#15
For the OP, you also want to look at the RM - they have an IS cadre, very similar to the RSigs (same concept of Class 3..1 training at Blandford). It used to be sideways entry (I'm a little out of touch) but the Sgts that worked for me were hoofing. Utterly professional and well trained. It's a thought!
 

Ninja_Stoker

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#18
For the OP, you also want to look at the RM - they have an IS cadre, very similar to the RSigs (same concept of Class 3..1 training at Blandford). It used to be sideways entry (I'm a little out of touch) but the Sgts that worked for me were hoofing. Utterly professional and well trained. It's a thought!
I always think that achieving a green beret before the primary objective tends to deter a fair few.

You can be a Royal Marines fast jet pilot too, but it's a bit like circumnavigation to reach the other end of your street.

Information Systems specialisation info here: Information systems specialisation | Royal Marines

30 Commando Information Exploitation group may well be of interest as there are IS billets aplenty. Author Ian Flemming was a founder member of the original 30 Commando; The story of Ian Fleming's TOP SECRET wartime Intelligence unit - 30AU - ?His red indian braves - literary james bond?s wartime unit 30 Commando - 30 Assault Unit - 30 advance unit British Special Operations in World War II The Allied hunt for Nazi s
 

Ninja_Stoker

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#20
It's just a suggestion as very few seem to get told about it....
In the event a computer geek is primarily interested in becoming a Royal Marine on the grounds of a keen interest in physical fitness (rather than his apparent sniper prowess on 'Call Of Doody'), the career option will certainly be put forward at an early stage.
 
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