CIS Entry Level Engineers?

NavyNovice25

Midshipman
I spoke with a representative from the RN Recruitment that told me Cryptological Technicians are the highest security level you can obtain as a junior rating and its regarded as a more senior position than CIS.

Originally I thought CIS was more critical since you're maintaining the equipment everybody is relying on.

I'm unsure which role is better, more varied and provides more opportunities, CT, CIS, WS?.

Cheers

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WreckerL

War Hero
Super Moderator
CT do the stuff you won't read about, CIS more opportunities than WS IMO.

Although you mention crypto, it's engineers not enginners ;)

Unless you've loaded the Sumo crypto :)
 

NavyNovice25

Midshipman
CT do the stuff you won't read about, CIS more opportunities than WS IMO.

Although you mention crypto, it's engineers not enginners ;)

Unless you've loaded the Sumo crypto :)
Out of CIS or CT which would you recommend?. I asked the RT Officer what are the personality traits that a CT candidate needs to possess, still don't know.

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soleil

War Hero
Out of CIS or CT which would you recommend?. I asked the RT Officer what are the personality traits that a CT candidate needs to possess, still don't know.

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It gives an indication of what is required of a CT on the page on the website.

Something which is worth bearing in mind is that applicants for CT need to pass the RT with a particularly high score, it's one of the highest scores required.


What kind of work do you do now and what kind of qualifications do you have?

PS WreckerL has already given you an idea in his post about the nature of CT work.
 

crash_evans

Lantern Swinger
I spoke with a representative from the RN Recruitment that told me Cryptological Technicians are the highest security level you can obtain as a junior rating and its regarded as a more senior position than CIS.

Originally I thought CIS was more critical since you're maintaining the equipment everybody is relying on.

I'm unsure which role is better, more varied and provides more opportunities, CT, CIS, WS?.

Cheers

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CT’s are required to hold a DV (Developed Vetting). There are many caveats that would preclude you from obtaining this (Foreign nationals in the family, financial concerns, previous convictions. Essentially anything that you could be blackmailed with). I know of one instance where a individual, we will call him ‘Bob’. Bob’s NOK married a foreign national from the Far East, this increased the risk and was therefore not eligible for a DV. If you would be unable to achieve this, you will be unemployable. I say this not to worry or put you off, merely being pragmatic.

A CT is employed in a niche role, the are employed to analyse electromagnetic emissions, analyse data and patterns of life and to provide additional data to the tactical and operational battle space. Allowing commanders and other operators to fuse their pictures to allow more informed decision making. Clearly as a AB2 you will be a junior analyst and not making the big decisions, that will be the same for any role you undertake. There are a few CT’s on here that could probably PM you more info. The sticking point is, no one can explain what you will actually do until you have a DV and are ‘read on’. So don’t expect much more info that broad brush until you are starting Phase 2.

CIS at the moment are streamed as technicians (maintainers) or Specialists (operators). As it stands now, the only maintainers being streamed are on submarines. General Service are employed into the operator role (setting up comms circuits). NB operators are not entitled to engineers pay.

I have gone through the options as a WS, if you look through my comments elsewhere in the search box. You will find them.

Hope this helps.

YA


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NavyNovice25

Midshipman
It gives an indication of what is required of a CT on the page on the website.

Something which is worth bearing in mind is that applicants for CT need to pass the RT with a particularly high score, it's one of the highest scores required.


What kind of work do you do now and what kind of qualifications do you have?

PS WreckerL has already given you an idea in his post about the nature of CT work.
I work as a personal care worker, but most of my employment as been varied.

Qualifications: I recently learnt how to use a washing machine I can cook a mean steak - rare .

Desirability: I can collect and disseminate information quickly, very good at retaining info, I see patterns everywhere, quick study, radical thinker, pragmatic etc.

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SheffGruff

Badgeman
Something to be alert to is that the CT branch is quite small and often works in a tri-service environment. The upshot is that shore posts between deployments are likely to be on RAF bases scattered around the UK in locations you wouldn't typically associate with a job in the Navy. Don't make the mistake I did by assuming that shore postings would probably be in Portsmouth.
 
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