Changes to BRNC training from 14th Sept 2014

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  1. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    Officer Cadet training has changed significantly with effect from next month.

    The purpose of the programme rewrite is to ensure that Officer Cadets gain sufficient sea-skills with the reduction of available training platforms - the Initial Sea Training package has reduced from 8 weeks to 3 weeks and now called the Initial Sea Acquaint (ISA). The time released from the IST package has created the opportunities to reintroduce mandatory Wednesday afternoon sports for all cadets and a sail training package (with RYA qualifications) will now be delivered. Battle Field tours will commence, along with other broadening activities.

    BRNC comprises 2 phases of training – 10 Weeks Militarisation with College and Dartmoor Leadership Exercises; 20 weeks Marinisation - including the 3 week Initial Sea Acquaint, waterborne leadership exercises, sail training and broadening activities.

    In short: A reduction from 56 days on a warship to 21 days. 5 weeks with sport make & mends, sail training and a trip to Belgium/France.
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  2. Hi NS, do you know if there are any changes to RNR Officer training, in light of theses changes to the full time programme?
  3. They're moving to IST, CFT and SFT.....
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  4. Being new'ish to the RNR, the list of acronyms mean nothing to me. Any chance you could expand on their meaning ATG? Thanks!
  5. It was an in-joke: don't worry about it.
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  6. Initial Sea Time, Common Fleet Time, Specialist Fleet Time. I think the point is that it's all a bit circular and the RN Good Ideas Club does more recycling than inventing.
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  7. NS, how is the training pipeline beyond BRNC changing to compensate? Any changes to SFT?

  8. Seaweed

    Seaweed War Hero Book Reviewer

    Oh dear. In my first 2 1/2 years in the RN I had precisely 10 weeks of shore instruction, all the rest was afloat.

    The wind don't blow the way it used to.
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  9. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    It's not been announced yet. As soon as it is, I'll update unless someone beats me to it.
  10. wave_dodger

    wave_dodger War Hero Book Reviewer

    Ridiculous, a far better idea would have been to use the to be purchased OPVs for UK waters IST, then expand that to available Fleet platforms for a shorter IST phase. When we reduced it to 8 weeks it really lost a lot of its impact and it became a two month holiday with some cleaning thrown in.

    In the initial phase of training I'm all for militarisation and marination but to be brutally honest we looked at the value of RYA training and for a professional Military force it added zilch.

    Once again this passes the training risk out to the broader Fleet, again.
  11. You could even call the OPVs SANDPIPER and PETEREL.
  12. Or UNWELL....
  13. wave_dodger

    wave_dodger War Hero Book Reviewer

    and the circle turns......

  14. WD I have to disagree, I'm not an RYA bosun by any means, but even a rouge like myself has experienced that the RYA syllabus IS the old RN one for PB L2 / advanced. But it is the RN (stand fast advanced / tactical course). By using the RYA accreditation that was so hard fought for, worked for and maintained people in training or visiting can get an out side qual and a broader experience. Anyone finishing IWOF and IWON could smash some of the RYA shore / theory exams.

    Having a recognised (by industry) qual makes us professional, the RN does not practice anchoring or med mooring a RIB the dirty RYA do, if PBL2 or advanced was part of the course the syllabus would be adjusted.

    Getting civvey quals adds another depth and sense of achievement plus opens door if not allows black catting.

    Also without RYA quals we (as a navy) can not use the majority of our waterborne assets, in SQ,JP, FALMOUTH, POMPY, GIB as no one will be qualified to use or teach on them, then we would have to pay civvies to teach much restricted and H&S aware courses with no quals awarded and then the army would have a better sailing set up than the RN... Oh hang on that's where we are now, over shadowed by a bunch of pongos with all our assets rotting on pontoons and getting absorbed by cadet units because the IPT cand justify keeping them sat doing f/;£ all.

    I do however agree with the IFT SFT training seem to be getting butchered.

    My two pence.

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