Careers Guidance/Progression

soleil

War Hero
I've got the 5 GCSE'S now including maths and english.
140 UCAS points
2:1 degree

Ive got my application for rating, just been passed fit after a year TMU wait and just not sure if I have any options open now. Do you know how the pay scales for able are worked, anywhere between 17 - 28 odd, does education ect have anything to do with that?

What are your UCAS Points derived from?
 

soleil

War Hero
Thanks!

Time to get studying then! I have a few level 2 qualifications (city & guilds/cert in digital applications) which I studied for alongside my GCSE's. I wonder whether these count towards the 5 A-C's?

Could you please tell me more about these schemes?

The Upper Yardman (UY) Scheme - designed to provide opportunities for the promotion of young ratings (i.e. up to age 26) to commissioned rank. For older and more experienced ratings (i.e. over the age of 26), there is the Senior Upper Yardman (SUY) scheme. Personnel seeking promotion to the Officer Corps via these schemes will be in competition with non-Service candidates.

All officer candidates must pass selection by the Admiralty Interview Board (AIB); those UY candidates recommended by the AIB are subsequently considered for selection to enter Britannia Royal Naval College (BRNC) Dartmouth by a Final Selection Board (FSB) chaired by the Captain Naval Recruiting (CNR).

Selection is subject to the requirements of the Service. The probability of selection to BRNC will vary depending upon branch/arm/specialisation.

Ratings may apply to be considered for any officer branch and, where appropriate, arm and specialisation, providing that they are able to satisfy the entry requirements. Their first choice of branch/arm/specialisation does not preclude them from being assessed for alternatives when appearing before the AIB. There are no guarantees that successful candidates will be offered the branch, arm or specialisation of their choice.

Candidates for UY(X) Warfare, Aircrew and Air Traffic Control, Logistics, RM or QARNNS must be aged over 17 and below the age of 26 on the first day of the month that initial officer training commences. Candidates for UY(E) must be aged over 17 and below the age of 30 on the first day of the month that initial officer training commences.

Commissions and Warrant (CW) papers are only raised for Upper Yardman (UY) candidates who meet, or expect to meet, the educational criteria of five GCSE grades A*-C (or equivalent) in non-overlapping subjects, including Mathematics and English Language. The educational requirement for Senior Upper Yardman SUY candidates to have CW papers raised is two GCSEs Grade A*-C (or equivalent), one of which must be Mathematics or English Language. To be eligible for the Final Selection Board, SUY candidates are required to have GCSE Grade A*-C in Mathematics, English Language and two other non-overlapping subjects (or equivalent), a total of four GCSEs. Common equivalent qualifications that may be accepted in lieu of the GCSE are:

a. Scottish Certificate of Education Ordinary Grade (grade A, B or C) or Standard Grade (1 or 2).

b. GCE Ordinary level (grade A, B or C).

c. Grade l of the Certificate of Secondary Education (CSE) on a subject for subject basis.

There are other factors relating to how the scheme is administered and things which are required, but you don't need to know about them at this stage.




 
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Ash891

Badgeman
The Upper Yardman (UY) Scheme - designed to provide opportunities for the promotion of young ratings (i.e. up to age 26) to commissioned rank. For older and more experienced ratings (i.e. over the age of 26), there is the Senior Upper Yardman (SUY) scheme. Personnel seeking promotion to the Officer Corps via these schemes will be in competition with non-Service candidates.

All officer candidates must pass selection by the Admiralty Interview Board (AIB); those UY candidates recommended by the AIB are subsequently considered for selection to enter Britannia Royal Naval College (BRNC) Dartmouth by a Final Selection Board (FSB) chaired by the Captain Naval Recruiting (CNR).

Selection is subject to the requirements of the Service. The probability of selection to BRNC will vary depending upon branch/arm/specialisation.

Ratings may apply to be considered for any officer branch and, where appropriate, arm and specialisation, providing that they are able to satisfy the entry requirements. Their first choice of branch/arm/specialisation does not preclude them from being assessed for alternatives when appearing before the AIB. There are no guarantees that successful candidates will be offered the branch, arm or specialisation of their choice.

Candidates for UY(X) Warfare, Aircrew and Air Traffic Control, Logistics, RM or QARNNS must be aged over 17 and below the age of 26 on the first day of the month that initial officer training commences. Candidates for UY(E) must be aged over 17 and below the age of 30 on the first day of the month that initial officer training commences.

Commissions and Warrant (CW) papers are only raised for Upper Yardman (UY) candidates who meet, or expect to meet, the educational criteria of five GCSE grades A*-C (or equivalent) in non-overlapping subjects, including Mathematics and English Language. The educational requirement for Senior Upper Yardman SUY candidates to have CW papers raised is two GCSEs Grade A*-C (or equivalent), one of which must be Mathematics or English Language. To be eligible for the Final Selection Board, SUY candidates are required to have GCSE Grade A*-C in Mathematics, English Language and two other non-overlapping subjects (or equivalent), a total of four GCSEs. Common equivalent qualifications that may be accepted in lieu of the GCSE are:

a. Scottish Certificate of Education Ordinary Grade (grade A, B or C) or Standard Grade (1 or 2).

b. GCE Ordinary level (grade A, B or C).

c. Grade l of the Certificate of Secondary Education (CSE) on a subject for subject basis.

There are other factors relating to how the scheme is administered and things which are required, but you don't need to know about them at this stage.






Good to know - thank you.

I'm just looking over my current qualifcations at the moment. Just discovered my Level 2 CiDa (cert in digital applications) is worth 2 GCSE's (achieved merit). So along with my English C, Science C and CiDa Merit I would need only 2 more A-C's (assuming the CiDa is overlapping - since it is one subject).

I'm closer to the academic requirements than I originally thought. Re-doing my Maths GCSE is definitely something I want to do in the near future.

Is it common for people to take on GCSE study whilst serving?

Thanks
Ash
 

Ninja_Stoker

War Hero
Moderator
The only acceptable alternative to GCSEs for the Naval Service are IGCSE's or SCE's.

A Levels passed below grade D are not accepted.

To become an officer, from within the service, under age 26, only 5 GCSE's are required, the A levels are not required.
 

Rachelthree

War Hero
If you feel confident in maths somewhat you can just take the exams and its not all that expensive. Just do the lower paper rather than the higher (unless you predict you will get an a* or a then it makes life alot harder doing the higher paper, its alot easier to get a b in the lower paper). Just an idea maybe :)
 

soleil

War Hero
Good to know - thank you.

I'm just looking over my current qualifcations at the moment. Just discovered my Level 2 CiDa (cert in digital applications) is worth 2 GCSE's (achieved merit). So along with my English C, Science C and CiDa Merit I would need only 2 more A-C's (assuming the CiDa is overlapping - since it is one subject).

I'm closer to the academic requirements than I originally thought. Re-doing my Maths GCSE is definitely something I want to do in the near future.

Is it common for people to take on GCSE study whilst serving?

Thanks
Ash

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Looks like it'll be the senior for me by the time I get in as a levels below d can't be counted and degree UCAS don't count.

Will be doing my fitness within 2 weeks and from what I can see the interview isn't far after that.

How do they work the pay scale, ie able is anywhere between 17-28k odd?
 

Ash891

Badgeman
Looks like it'll be the senior for me by the time I get in as a levels below d can't be counted and degree UCAS don't count.

Will be doing my fitness within 2 weeks and from what I can see the interview isn't far after that.

How do they work the pay scale, ie able is anywhere between 17-28k odd?

From what I can gather from the UYS's and what Ninja Stoker said, GCSE's appear to be the only requirements for serving personnel.
 

dsgrnmcm

Lantern Swinger
From what I can gather from the UYS's and what Ninja Stoker said, GCSE's appear to be the only requirements for serving personnel.

Ash891,

The senior route or SUY route has a few conditions;

27 or older
Have held the rate of PO for 12 months (exceptions may be made apparently CIS INT etc)
4 x GCSE's

Not sure how old you are, but just be aware that depending on your chosen branch it may take a good few years to get to PO and crack the 12 months. I have just completed this route and speaking to the career manager the other side of 35 would apparently go against someone in the warfare branch anyway.

Just some food for thought.
 
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