Careers Guidance/Progression

Ash891

Badgeman
Hi,

I've done some research on this via the RN website but can't find much information regarding career guidance and progression besides monetary contributions to study being available.

Just wondering if there is career guidance available to those serving - as in advice on the best qualification routes to take to meet our personal academic aims?

I ask this because it will be a goal of mine to improve my academic qualifcations (didn't try as hard for my GCSE's as I should have - regretting it now!)
Eventually my aim would be to study for a degree (if time would allow whilst serving) and potentially transfer from a rating to an officer.

I've already went to college for 3 years achieving a BTEC Level 3 National Diploma and a Level 2 City & Guilds, which leaves me just short of the UCAS point entry requirements for an officer (I'd still need a few more A-C GCSE's anyway!)

So this leads me to the next question - if I were to study for A levels whilst serving, would this negate the need for 5 A-C GCSE's since they are of a higher level? Would my current btec level 3 ( A level equiv) have any sway - or would I need to rebuild my qualifications from bottom up, per say?

Thanks
 
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Hi we seem to be in a fairly similar position. I liked the idea of joining as an officer but was missing A-C in English and maths GCSE and 40 UCAS points. I knew I wanted to join whatever the role so applied as a rating, suits me. Decided to go to college evening classes last year and bagged an A in English and C in Maths. Navy chef I know said you'll need them so go do them now to save time.

Situation now is GCSE's fine 5+ A-C's including maths and English.
140 UCAS points
degree worth 360 UCAS!
So not really sure of my options now, I've just been passed medically fit so should be taking the fitness ASAP and was going to speak to the careers office at the interview?

I'm intending on doing further qualifications when I'm in but my advice would be get as much done as you can prior to joining, remember the application is a long process, I used the time to get the extra grades.

As for officer I know you can get commission but its difficult from what I understand, not impossible but difficult. The pay scales for rating have a big gap between the lower and higher end and I'm unclear on how they actually grade your pay!

It'd be good to hear what others think about this. Either way good luck and I admire you bettering yourself academically.
 

Ash891

Badgeman
For me atleast it is the confusion on what are the "actual" requirements for entry - as these seem to vary throughout different organisations.

For example, I know that my BTEC Level 3 ND would allow me to enrol on certain A level courses (as it is equivalent, I guess it shows you're capable of understanding level 3) that otherwise would require an A-C in a relevant subject.

But I wonder what the RN's stance on this is. Are GCSE's actually the foundations for any hope of commision - or would higher level qualifications negate the need for GCSE's further down the line?

Thanks
Ash

PS: Just looked into local college GCSE courses, the next intake is late this year with exams early 2014. I guess i'll see when the expected HMS Raleigh date would be (assuming the interview goes well!) to establish whether I would have time. I guess I could always look at the private learning providers (distance/home learning etc).

Hi we seem to be in a fairly similar position. I liked the idea of joining as an officer but was missing A-C in English and maths GCSE and 40 UCAS points. I knew I wanted to join whatever the role so applied as a rating, suits me. Decided to go to college evening classes last year and bagged an A in English and C in Maths. Navy chef I know said you'll need them so go do them now to save time.

Situation now is GCSE's fine 5+ A-C's including maths and English.
140 UCAS points
degree worth 360 UCAS!
So not really sure of my options now, I've just been passed medically fit so should be taking the fitness ASAP and was going to speak to the careers office at the interview?

I'm intending on doing further qualifications when I'm in but my advice would be get as much done as you can prior to joining, remember the application is a long process, I used the time to get the extra grades.

As for officer I know you can get commission but its difficult from what I understand, not impossible but difficult. The pay scales for rating have a big gap between the lower and higher end and I'm unclear on how they actually grade your pay!

It'd be good to hear what others think about this. Either way good luck and I admire you bettering yourself academically.
 
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Pontius

War Hero
Are GCSE's actually the foundations for any hope of commision - or would higher level qualifications negate the need for GCSE's further down the line?

Yes. You must have those 5 A-C grades, including maths and English, in addition to the UCAS points. If you don't have those basic GCSEs then you can't join as an officer.
 
Yes. You must have those 5 A-C grades, including maths and English, in addition to the UCAS points. If you don't have those basic GCSEs then you can't join as an officer.

Do you know about graduate and non-graduate? I know the GCSE'S are a must that's why I did them when I did but depending on how you read it I've got the requirements as my degree is work 360 UCAS?
 

soleil

War Hero
Hi we seem to be in a fairly similar position. I liked the idea of joining as an officer but was missing A-C in English and maths GCSE and 40 UCAS points. I knew I wanted to join whatever the role so applied as a rating, suits me. Decided to go to college evening classes last year and bagged an A in English and C in Maths. Navy chef I know said you'll need them so go do them now to save time.

Situation now is GCSE's fine 5+ A-C's including maths and English.
140 UCAS points
degree worth 360 UCAS!
So not really sure of my options now, I've just been passed medically fit so should be taking the fitness ASAP and was going to speak to the careers office at the interview?

I'm intending on doing further qualifications when I'm in but my advice would be get as much done as you can prior to joining, remember the application is a long process, I used the time to get the extra grades.

As for officer I know you can get commission but its difficult from what I understand, not impossible but difficult. The pay scales for rating have a big gap between the lower and higher end and I'm unclear on how they actually grade your pay!

It'd be good to hear what others think about this. Either way good luck and I admire you bettering yourself academically.

Welcome to Rum Ration, BRussell.

What do you have in total in the way of qualifications now?
 

soleil

War Hero
Do you know about graduate and non-graduate? I know the GCSE'S are a must that's why I did them when I did but depending on how you read it I've got the requirements as my degree is work 360 UCAS?

The Officer UCAS Point calculation is based on A Levels/BTECs/Bac etc - that level.

Degrees aren't taken into account.
 

soleil

War Hero
Do you know about graduate and non-graduate? I know the GCSE'S are a must that's why I did them when I did but depending on how you read it I've got the requirements as my degree is work 360 UCAS?

The difference between a graduate entry Officer and a non-graduate entry Officer used to have an influence on pay scales and initial seniority, but that has all been evened out by the AFPRB.
 

soleil

War Hero
Ash, BRussell

There are two schemes for promotion to Officer from within the Service called the Upper Yardman and Senior Upper Yardman schemes.
 
I've got the 5 GCSE'S now including maths and english.
140 UCAS points
2:1 degree

Ive got my application for rating, just been passed fit after a year TMU wait and just not sure if I have any options open now. Do you know how the pay scales for able are worked, anywhere between 17 - 28 odd, does education ect have anything to do with that?
 

Ash891

Badgeman
Yes. You must have those 5 A-C grades, including maths and English, in addition to the UCAS points. If you don't have those basic GCSEs then you can't join as an officer.

Thanks!

Time to get studying then! I have a few level 2 qualifications (city & guilds/cert in digital applications) which I studied for alongside my GCSE's. I wonder whether these count towards the 5 A-C's?

Ash, BRussell

There are two schemes for promotion to Officer from within the Service called the Upper Yardman and Senior Upper Yardman schemes.

Could you please tell me more about these schemes?
 
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