After 40 years the Education Establisment may be waking up to the fact that all this worry about students self esteem and failure to push them hard so as not to uset the little darlings has produced generations that "Can't Do". See todays article from the Times. Can't do But then what do us old pharts know about,as we are always told its different world/navy. Well no it is not, it is just a continuous lowering of standards and responsibilities undertaken by the current generation. The other day I advised a Newbie the following "Ignore anyone who has a go about your spelling or grammar. Just tell them to feck off. Please avoid use of text speak. i.e 4 instead of for etc. it is so annoying" His response was: "Confused - My grammar was fine, and I didn't use text talk, or am I going mad? Was that aimed at me that comment? (Getting use to using a forum)" Why was he confused ? Because the thought patterns of even intelligent youngster show they are continually defensive, seeing shadows which do not exist, thinking people having a go at them. This is what the world has come to. Nutty PS Please do not quote me the good news stories about some of our young servicemen/woman, they are to be praised, but we all know that bad news stories far outstrip the good.