Can they make you go subbie?

cutter

Badgeman
Hi,

I read on one of the threads that new male loggie YO recruits at Dartmouth are being pushed into submarine training 'cos so many women YO's are loggie's.

Put simply, can they make you do it? What if you didn't want to be a subbie?

Cutter
 

clanky

War Hero
The whole reason you go to Dartmouth is to become a subbie (S/Lt). The correct way to refer to submariners is Sundodger.
 

janner

MIA
Book Reviewer
cutter said:
Hi,

I read on one of the threads that new male loggie YO recruits at Dartmouth are being pushed into submarine training 'cos so many women YO's are loggie's.

Put simply, can they make you do it? What if you didn't want to be a subbie?

Cutter

Cutter your best bet would be to join the Swiss Navy
 

cutter

Badgeman
I'm afraid I haven't got a clue what the f*ck you're all on about. The Swiss Navy? What?

Can they make you become a 'Sundodger' then if u don't want to?

Cutter
 

dunkers

War Hero
If you're worried about having to do something you don't "want" to do then maybe the armed forces aren't for you. Sorry.

Why wouldn't you want to become a submariner anyway?
 

cutter

Badgeman
For f*cks sake stop being so pedantic. It's a simple question:

Can one be forced to be a submariner?

In answer to your question, sitting submerged in a submarine is not my idea of 'seeing the world', that's all. It's not that I wouldn't do it, it's that I'd prefer not to.
 

the_matelot

War Hero
Moderator
Of course,if you took up dual nationality(Irish parents?) that would cause some problems if you wanted to become a submariner...:wink:
 

capt-ahab

Lantern Swinger
the_matelot said:
Of course,if you took up dual nationality(Irish parents?) that would cause some problems if you wanted to become a submariner...:wink:

Excellent point matelot, also i believe there is an eyesight cut off for boats? I think they need you to have the highest level wheras surface take the next one down. Though unsure as to whether this is just for warfare or if it is for everyone.
 

cutter

Badgeman
That would be very helpful to know. I'm in the lowest band in regards to eyesight, therefore going for loggie officer.

If even loggie's had to have good eyesight on a submarine it'd be great news from my perspective as I'd never have have to serve in one! :D
 

PartTimer

War Hero
I wasn't aware it was being done as soon as Dartmouth. as a baby Loggie (Pusser for the old timers) you'll be assigned your first appoitnment at the end of ILOC (JSOC for the old timers). As only males can go on submarines, and the Loggie Officers tend to have a high proportion of females, you are more likely as a male to be appoined to a submarine.

It's not so long ago that it was very unusual to have a pusser on a sumarine a a high proportion of pussers don't meet the eyesight requirements for periscope wtachkeeper, and a CO didn't want to lose a watchkeeping billet. The only appoitments tended to be to bombers.

Remember Cutter, there's not many sumarines left anyway!
 

capt-ahab

Lantern Swinger
Be aware though it may come up at AIB or something, and if you dont sound like you'd be willing to go deeps it probably wont work in your favour...

Ask at the AFCO about the vision thing

Does the idea of all the submarine pay not appeal?
 

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