Can I run this past you all?

Do you all think it would be a good idea to set up a dedicated in memoriam/condolences page here on RR as it does seem to be a bit disjointed as it is at present?
finknottle said:
Do you all think it would be a good idea to set up a dedicated in memoriam/condolences page here on RR as it does seem to be a bit disjointed as it is at present?
Yes. Good idea
A better format might be a separate section, distinct from the forums, with a distinct page for each obituary. You could then have a section underneath for condolences and comments.

I think the "blog" feature of the site is pretty much in that format already so it wouldn't be too hard to implement.
I mentioned this to Seaweed when he PM'd me about condolence threads a while back, not sure what the outcome was as he didn't reply
There is a Memorial Place on romft which was set up on it`s inception, it names all the fatalities and where possible the events that led to it.

Have a look if you want an idea, it`s run by one person.

It has a simple heading `Names`. In the Memorial forum.
This has been raised before and I have always been against but open to persuasion. In my opinion Rum Ration / ARRSE etc are not the places to run any sort of formal remembrance book. A dedicated thread is OK if you wish to start one, but not a forum or dedicated page.

There are two main objections: Firstly the MoD does an excellent job of this and one that we cannot match (it sounds like Romft have also got it covered although I doubt to the same standard). Secondly repeating it on here is just an invitation to the more melodramatic among us to cut'n'paste war poetry and the less creative to write "RIP mate" hundreds of times. I would want neither of these if it were me.

I appreciate that people want to express condolences but think it should be low key (perhaps a single thread) but as I said, I am open to persuasion given enough support.
Having said all that - I've misunderstood slightly and missed one important thing of course - people dying who aren't in Iraq and Afghanistan and therefore not on the MoD site. Is it dead RR members you're thinking of or those killed on ops?
There is a group on FB which lists names of those who have past away whilst serving our country, be it from illness or during the act of war.

It get's updated often when news of a death comes to light. The creator of group is doing her best to make sure she doesn't miss a name so if she has people inform her.

Here's the current list


148 Commando Battery Royal Artillery

OM(C) Ian SEYMOUR RN - 21 Mar 03

702 Squadron Royal Navy

POAEM(R) ‘Wheels’ - 1991

815 Squadron Royal Navy

Lieutenant Toby BEALE – 23 Dec 98
Lieutenant Dave COLE – 08 Dec 04
LAEM Richard DARNELL – 08 Dec 04
Lieutenant Rob DUNN – 08 Dec 04
Lieutenant Jamie MITCHELL – 08 Dec 04

845 Squadron Royal Navy

REM(A) Adrian Anslow – 25 May 1982
LAEM Don PRICE – 25 May 1982

849 Squadron Royal Navy

Lieutenant Philip D GREEN RN - 22 Mar 03
Lieutenant Antony KING RN - 22 Mar 03
Lieutenant Marc A LAWRENCE RN - 22 Mar 03
Lieutenant Philip WEST RN - 22 Mar 03
Lieutenant James WILLIAMS RN - 22 Mar 03
Lieutenant Andrew S WILSON RN - 22 Mar 03

HMS Drake

LCH Darren ‘Pinky’ FLOYD – 12 Jul 08

HMS Kent


HMS Nottingham

AB(S) Steve Williams - 1987

HMS Osprey

AEM Peter ASHLEY – 04 Feb 95

HMS Sutherland

LET(ME) Brent ‘Jules’ ANDREWS RN

HMS Tireless

OM Anthony HUNTROD – 21 Mar 07
LOM Paul McCANN – 21 Mar 07


3 Commando Royal Marines

Captain Philip Stuart GUY RM - 21 Mar 03
Marine Sholto HEDENSKOG RM - 21 Mar 03
Lance Corporal Michael JONES RM - 29 Jul 07
Warrant Officer Second Class Mark STRATFORD RM - 21 Mar 03
Major Jason WARD RM - 21 Mar 03
Marine Joseph David WINDALL RM - 2 Sep 06

40 Commando Royal Marines

Marine David MARSH RM
Corporal Damian MULVIHILL RM
Lieutenant John THORNTON RM

42 Commando Royal Marines

Marine Thomas CURRY RM
Marine Tony EVANS RM
Marine Benjamin REDDY RM
Marine Georgie SPARKS RM
Marine Scott SUMMER RM
Lance Corporal Ben WHATLEY RM

45 Commando Royal Marines

Corporal Liam ELMS RM
Lance Corporal Steven 'Jamie' FELLOWS RM
Lance Corporal Mathew FORD RM
Marine Jonathan HOLLAND RM
Marine Alexander LUCAS RM
Corporal Ben NOVAK RM
Marine Richard J WATSON RM
Marine Jonathan WIGLEY RM
Marine Gary WRIGHT RM
Corporal Danny WINTER RM – 14 Jan 09

539 Assault Squadron Royal Marines

Marine Jason HYLTON RM
Marine Christopher R MADDISON RM – 30 Mar 03 (IRQ)

Armoured Support Group

Marine Dale GOSTICK RM
Marine Jason MACKIE RM – 14 May 09 (AFG)

Commando Logistics Regiment

Marine Damian DAVIES – 12 Dec 08
Corporal Robert DEERING – 21 Dec 08

RM Poole

Corporal Ian PLANK – 31 Oct 03


Colour Sergeant John CECIL RM - 21 Mar 03
Marine Neil David DUNSTAN RM
Marine Robert Joseph MCKIBBEN RM
Marine Travis MAKIN RM – 11 Jan 09


1(UK) Armoured Division HQ & Signal Regiment

Lance Corporal Shaun Andrew BRIERLEY

29 Commando Regiment Royal Artillery

Lance Bombardier Ross CLARK
Lance Bombardier James DWYER
Lance Bombardier Llywelyn Karl EVANS
Sergeant Les HEHIR
Lance Bombardier Liam MCLAUGHLIN
Warrant Officer Class 2 Michael SMITH
Captain Tom Herbert John SAWYER – 14 Jan 09

Armoured Brigades

Corporal Lee CHURCHER

Army Air Corps

Lance Corporal David Kenneth WILSON

Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders

Private Craig O'DONNELL

Black Watch

Lance Corporal Barry STEPHEN

Blues & Royals

Lance Corporal of Horse Matty HULL
Lance Corporal Ross NICHOLLS

Coldstream Guards

Sergeant Chris HICKEY – 18 Oct 05
Lance Corporal Anthony James WAKEFIELD – 2 May 05

Duke of Lancasters Regiment

Second Lieutenant Johnathan – BRANCH – COOKE – 05 Feb 07 (IRQ)
Kingsman Alex GREEN – 13 Jan 07 (IRQ)
Kingsman Jamie HANCOCK – 6 Nov 06 (IRQ)
Sergeant Graham HESKETH – 28 Dec 06 (IRQ)
Kingsman Alan JONES – 23 Apr 07 (IRQ)
Kingsman Adam James SMITH – 5 Apr 07 (IRQ)
Kingsman Danny WILSON – 01 Apr 07 (IRQ)

Royal Engineers

Lance Corporal Jake ALDERTON
Sapper Luke ALLSOPP
Staff Sergeant Simon CULLINGWORTH
Corporal Ivano VIOLINO

Grenadier Guards

Guardsman David ATHERTON
Guardsman Simon DAVISON
Guardsman Neil 'Tony' DOWNES
Guardsman Daryl HICKEY
Guardsman Daniel PROBYN

Household Cavalry Regiment

Trooper Ratu Sakeasi BABAKOBAU
Second Lieutenant Raph JOHNSON
Trooper James MUNDAY
Lance Corporal Karl SHEARER
Lieutenant Alexander TWEEDIE

The Honourable Artillery Company

Trooper Jack SADLER

Intelligence Corps

Corporal Sarah BRYANT
Second Lieutenant Joanna York DYER – 5 Apr 07
Lance Corporal Jabron HASHMI

Irish Guards

Lance Corporal Ian Keith MALONE
Piper Christopher MUZVURU


Lance Corporal Sean TANSEY

The Light Infantry

Corporal Matthew CORNISH – 01 Aug 06 (IRQ)

Parachute Regiment

Corporal Bryan James BUDD
Private Peter Joe COWTON
Private Nathan CUTHBERTSON
Corporal Oliver Simon DICKETTS
Private Jeff DOHERTY
Private Daniel GAMBLE
Private Damien JACKSON
Lance Corporal Nicky MASON
Private Charles MURRAY
Captain David PATTEN
Private Jason Lee RAWSTRON
Warrant Officer 2nd Class Michael WILLIAMS
Corporal Mark William WRIGHT

Princess of Wales Royal Regiment

Private Lee O'CALLAGHAN – 09 Aug 04
Private Christopher Gordon RAYMENT – 04 Aug 04

Queens Royal Lancers

Corporal Stephen John ALLBUTT
Trooper David Jeffrey CLARKE
Trooper Robert PEARSON

Royal Anglian Regiment

Corporal Darren BONNER
Lance Corporal George Russell DAVEY
Private Robert Graham FOSTER – 23 Aug 97 (AFG)
Lance Corporal Darren GEORGE
Private Chris GRAY
Lance Corporal Alex HAWKINS
Captain David HICKS
Privates Aaron James MCCLURE – 23 Aug 07 (AFG)
Private Tony RAWSON
Private John THRUMBLE – 23 Aug 07 (AFG)

Royal Army Medical Corps

Private Eleanor DLUGOSZ – 5 Apr 07
Corporal Kris O’NEIL – 5 Apr 07

Royal Army Veterinary Corps

Lance Corporal John MURPHY – 7 Jan 07 (NI)
Lance Corporal Kenneth Michael ROWE

Royal Artillery

Sergeant Dave WILKINSON

Royal Electrical & Mechanical Engineers

Corporal Jason Stuart BARNES
Corporal Timothy Darren FLOWERS – 21 Jul 07
Corporal Darryl GARDINER
Lance Corporal James MCCUE
Corporal Alex SHAW – 13 Jun 82
Corporal Marc TAYLOR – 28 Sep 04 (IRQ)

Royal Gloucestershire, Berkshire and Wiltshire Regiment

Lance Corporal Peter Edward CRADDOCK
Lance Corporal Steven SHERWOOD

Royal Gurkha Rifles

Colour Sergeant Krishnabahadur DURA
Rifleman Yubraj RAI
Major Alexis ROBERTS

Royal Highland Fusiliers

Corporal Barry DEMPSEY

Royal Horse Artillery

Captain Alex EIDA

Royal Irish Regiment

Ranger Justin James CUPPLES
Ranger Anare DRAIVA
Lance Corporal Luke MCCULLOCH
Lance Corporal Paul MUIRHEAD

Royal Logistic Corps

Private David John BAIRD – 14 May 96 (BOS)
Sergeant Robert BUSUTTIL
Private Andrew Barrie CUTTS
Corporal John GREGORY
Staff Sergeant Chris MUIR
Warrant Officer 2nd Class Gary 'Gaz' O'DONNELL
Private Leigh REEVES
Warrant Officer 2nd Class Dan SHIRLEY
Sadie (Sid) LANGLIOS – 17 Jan 99

Royal Military Police

Corporal Russell ASTON – 24 Jun 03
Sergeant Simon HAMILTON-JEWELL – 24 Jun 03
Lance Corporal Benjamin HYDE – 24 Jun 03
Lance Corporal Thomas KEYS – 24 Jun 03
Corporal Paul LONG – 24 Jun 03
Corporal Simon MILLER – 24 Jun 03

Corporal Mike GILYEAT

Royal Regiment of Fusiliers

Fusilier Kelan John TURRINGTON

Royal Regiment of Scotland

Lance Corporal James JOHNSON
Sergeant Jonathan MATHEWS

The Rifles

Rifleman Daniel Lee COFFEY – 27 Feb 07
Rifleman Paul DONNACHIE – 29 Apr 07 (IRQ)
Major Paul HARDING – 20 Jun 07
Private Jonathan KITULAGODA
Rifleman Aaron LINCOLN – 02 Apr 07 (IRQ)
Rifleman Stuart Winston NASH
Corporal Daniel ‘Danny’ NIELD – 30 Jan 09
Sergeant Chris REED
Corporal John RIGBY – 22 Jun 07 (IRQ)
Corporal Richard ‘Robbo’ ROBINSON – 17 Jan 09
Rifleman Edward VAKABUA – 06 Jul 07 (IRQ)

Royal Signals

Corporal Mark CRIDGE
Lance Corporal Peter HETHERINGTON
Sergeant Barry KEEN
Corporal Sean REEVE
Sergeant Peter THORPE (Para Sigs)

Royal Tank Regiment

Corporal Steve ‘Eddy’ EDWARDS – 01 Aug 07
Sergeant Steven Mark ROBERTS
Lance Corporal James CARTWRIGHT – 16 Jun 07

Royal Welsh

Lance Corporal Christopher HARKETT – 14 Mar 09 (AFG)

The Worcestershire and Sherwood Foresters

Sergeant Craig BRELSFORD
Private Johan BOTHA
Private Ben FORD
Colour Sergeant Phillip NEWMAN
Lance Corporal Paul "Sandy" SANDFORD
Private Damian WRIGHT
Drummer Thomas WRIGHT

The Yorkshire Regiment

Sergeant Lee JOHNSON
Corporal Damian Stephen LAWRENCE

Unknown Units

Lance Corporal James BATEMAN
Captain Sean DOLAN
Lance Corporal Richard LARKIN
Private Aaron James MCCLURE
Captain John MCDERMIND


9 Squadron

Flight Lieutenant Kevin Barry MAIN
Flight Lieutenant David Rhys WILLIAMS

74(F) Squadron

Flight Lieutenant Euan MURDOCH – 26 Aug 87 (UK)
Flying Officer Jerry OGG – 26 Aug 87 (UK)

RAF Regiment

Leading Aircraftman Martin BEARD – 7 Aug 07
Senior Aircraftman Christopher BRIDGE
Senior Aircraftman Matthew CAULWELL – 19 Jul 07
Senior Aircraftman Christopher DUNSMORE – 19 Jul 07
Senior Aircraftman Graham LIVINGSTONE

RAF Movements Controller Logistics

Cpl Ben CHANDLER – Dec 08

Royal Auxiliary Air Force Regiment

Senior Aircraftman Peter McFERRAN
Senior Aircraftman Gary THOMPSON

120 Squadron Royal Air Force

Flight Sergeant Gary Wayne ANDREWS
Flight Sergeant Stephen ANDREWS
Flight Sergeant Stephen BEATTIE – 02 Sep 06
Flight Sergeant Gerard Martin BELL
Flight Sergeant Adrian DAVIES
Flight Lieutenant Steven JOHNSON
Sergeant Benjamin James KNIGHT
Sergeant John Joseph LANGTON
Flight Lieutenant Leigh Anthony MITCHELMORE
Flight Lieutenant Gareth Rodney NICHOLAS
Sergeant Gary Paul QUILLIAM
Flight Lieutenant Allan James SQUIRES
Flight Lieutenant Steven SWARBRICK

RAF Lyneham

Chief Technician Richard BROWN – 30 Jan 05
Flight Sergeant Mark GIBSON – 30 Jan 05
Master Engineer Gary NICHOLSON – 30 Jan 05
Sergeant Robert O’CONNOR – 30 Jan 05
Flight Lieutenant Paul PARDOEL – 30 Jan 05
Flight Lieutenant Andrew SMITH – 30 Jan 05
Flight Lieutenant David STEAD – 30 Jan 05
Corporal David WILLIAMS – 30 Jan 05

Strike Command Headquarters

Squadron Leader Patrick MARSHALL – 30 Jan 05


Sgt John ROBINSON – 22 Aug 08 (CYP)
*quote*Firstly the MoD does an excellent job of this and one that we cannot match *unquote*

With regards to the *Names* Thread over on ROMFT

It is my sad duty to continue to post the names of all military personnel
who die in the the service of this country - information for that thread
is from the relevant fact Sheet(s). It is, on the whole, very well respected
and is a "Read Only* section, and as such does not become (as you say)
a thread in which all who read reply R.I.P etc.

I started it out of respect - I shall continue to do so, and I try to do
the best job I can.

Rum Ration does not have to "Match" anything, and no-one (repeat)
no-one would want to click on endless links to YouTube Videos of The
Last Post every time another member of the Armed Forces is killed in
the Line of Duty.

The really sad fact of the matter is - I continue to post the names of
those who have been killed. We all wish such a list on an Internet Forum
did not exist.

You don't need to allow people to make comments if you were to have your own wall of honour.

I'm not saying for you to do one, but if you were to do one, you could have someone who wishes to update it when ever a soul were to be added and only they could do it. They could be pm'd should someone be missed, no comments left there isn't a need for comments, just pure reflection is all that is needed. I think everyone thinks the same thing when another life is taken.

Like I said I'm not suggesting you should do it, but that's what I'd do if it was up to me

Edited as this was a response to Good CO's post which dissappeared after I pressed post
No of course it doesn't have to 'match' anything. My feeling, and it is no more than that, is that I would not want to be on here if I were killed. The MoD page is respectful and complete. Like I said though, if there's lots of support, let me know and it will happen.
tommo said:
this was a response to Good CO's post which dissappeared after I pressed post
Yes I posted badly - I was looking at some comments that I found through that facebook page under a video, which were frankly awful. However they weren't on the page itself. Everything I saw on there was (in my opinion) appropriate and I wouldn't want to criticise.
It is just a suggestion and if it were to come into being I think it should encompass all. As it stands at the moment there are often double postings I feel that a dedicated thread would solve this.
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