Burgled? Police won't turn up unless burgler in house

SILVER_FOX

War Hero
Re: Burgled? Police won't turn up unless burgler in hou

Maybe they chase some but generally they don't bother with the majority. You only have to look at the number of idiots out there on the road.

I wouldn't blame the police for this change in policy. They're being forced into similar positions by lack of proper funding from our illustrious government as we're finding ourselves in.

If we spent the bloody tax on ourselves and stuff that directly benefits the country we might be able to balance the books. Who's for taking a year off from funding overseas economies then?

SF
 
Re: Burgled? Police won't turn up unless burgler in hou

Got my car broken into last night, they rummaged around and because I don't store things in my car they went away empty handed. I on the other hand have now to get my car repaired.

The police's view is it is car vandalism (not an attempted theft), and "no thanks we don't wan't to come and look at it".

Most dis-chuffed.
 

slim

War Hero
Re: Burgled? Police won't turn up unless burgler in hou

phil1972 said:
Got my car broken into last night, they rummaged around and because I don't store things in my car they went away empty handed. I on the other hand have now to get my car repaired.

The police's view is it is car vandalism (not an attempted theft), and "no thanks we don't wan't to come and look at it".

Most dis-chuffed.

However if you had apprehended the bstds yourself you would now be facing assault charges
 

Darkershadeofblu

Lantern Swinger
Re: Burgled? Police won't turn up unless burgler in hou

This has been going on for decades in the cities as the rozzers claim not to have enough resources, but the jam sandwiches always get the motorists doing just over the speed limit. Easy targets always help to inflate the statistics so the govt can say it's being tough on crime - not!!
 
Re: Burgled? Police won't turn up unless burgler in hou

phil1972 said:
Got my car broken into last night, they rummaged around and because I don't store things in my car they went away empty handed. I on the other hand have now to get my car repaired.

The police's view is it is car vandalism (not an attempted theft), and "no thanks we don't wan't to come and look at it".

Most dis-chuffed.

Phil

Within English/Welsh law unless you can prove the intent, i.e. state of mind of the suspect at the time and with out a bit more than a rummage around in this day and age you won't then you only have a crime of "criminal damage" . This is a perfectly legal way for the Police to reduce their crime figures of theft and say we have had an increase in "vandalism" Not a word used in the Legal System. It happened back in the 70's when every attempted entry to a building or part of a building was classified on instructions of Senior Officers as Criminal Damage and not attempted Burglary so at the end of the year they could say, "We have reduced Burglary in the area but Vandalism has gone up." Without a witness, identifiable property (to anyone not just the owner) or forensic evidence (finger prints, blood) you are on a total non starter. No more that 5% of burglaries committed in the country are genuinely solved. The rest claimed by Police are TIC's or written off as solved cos we know who did it but can't prove it.

As for attending burglaries unless the perpetrator is on scene achieves little other than to take 1 or 2 Policemen off the street to act as social workers and unpaid cleaner/builders to assist the upset victim. They can do nothing of any use. They are neither equipped or trained for forensic examination and are quick response units not local investigation units.

As for persecuting motorists how many coppers do you see out on the roads these days, very few. Last summer I drove from Brighton to just north of Faslane between 3pm and 1am and the next day from Glasgow's Western Hospital to South East London between 4 pm and midnight. Both were weekdays, on neither trip did I see one Police (marked) Mobile unit.

Like all Government Departments including the Forces they concentrated on the easy targets that the Government have set them not the hard ones just look at NHS, Education, CSU (Now disbanded), CPS, Police, MAFF (we can make it better by changing its name (Austin/Morris becomes Rover and various other things on the way).


I like you, may not like it but in 2007 it is the same as Ganges 1960 and Raleigh 2007 things have changed.

Nutty
 
Re: Burgled? Police won't turn up unless burgler in hou

I think you misunderstand my point, I probably put it across poorly.

I think the major deterent for criminals is if they think they will be apprehended. I would suggest that most now think they can burgle with implunity as it is not taken very seriously.

The other point made by SLIM I would concur with is that there appears nothing that we as private citizens are allowed to do about it, other than paying up in taxes and replacement windows, as if we intervene we are criticised by the police, if not worse.

The net result is most people pretend "anti-social behaviour", or as I prefer to call it criminality, isn't going on or hope it doesn't affect them today.
 

Jimmy_Green

War Hero
Re: Burgled? Police won't turn up unless burgler in hou

I think the money that the government intends to spend on, what I'm sure will be a farce of a national ID scheme, could be better spent on getting 1000s more police out on the streets on a proper beat (not in their cars). There should be a visible deterrent for the crims and a reassurance for the public. We should build more prisons, take away the TVs and pool tables. Enforce a prison uniform rather than allowing inmates their own clothes and introduce hard labour. Make prison a horrible place to be. And make the sentance passed the sentance to be served, no early release. Anybody that receives an ASBO should have to spend their weekends in prison in solitary confinement for the period of the ASBO, to reinforce what will happen should they breach their ASBO.

And that's for starters.
 
Re: Burgled? Police won't turn up unless burgler in hou

I hear a lot about overcrowding in Prisons, and why we cant put more bodies in because we dont have the space.

Why can't they hot bunk, and do hard graft during the 6 hours on time? Works on Boats...
 
Re: Burgled? Police won't turn up unless burgler in hou

Surely if prisons were unpleasant places to stay, and sentences were long, wouldn't that be a deterrent?

If someone decides to act against society (ie rob, mug, kill etc) then they lose all protection afforded by that society (rights, voting etc).

But that's just my opinion, and I don't have a job which relies on a high crime rate, unlike solicitors, human rights experts, prison visitors, probation service employees etc etc!
 
Re: Burgled? Police won't turn up unless burgler in hou

Jimmy_Green said:
I think the money that the government intends to spend on, what I'm sure will be a farce of a national ID scheme, could be better spent on getting 1000s more police out on the streets on a proper beat (not in their cars). There should be a visible deterrent for the crims and a reassurance for the public. We should build more prisons, take away the TVs and pool tables. Enforce a prison uniform rather than allowing inmates their own clothes and introduce hard labour. Make prison a horrible place to be. And make the sentance passed the sentance to be served, no early release. Anybody that receives an ASBO should have to spend their weekends in prison in solitary confinement for the period of the ASBO, to reinforce what will happen should they breach their ASBO.

And that's for starters.

JG
Nothing there that I would disagree with.

Phil
you always have been able to commit burglary with impunity even back in the 70's when I was a South London CID Officer and PC's still walked beats. It is much easier to nick people for face to face crimes, Robbery, Rape, Fraud, Drugs, Assault etc cos you at least have something to work on to get a conviction.

I do not know what the current state of play is with a citizens arrest but it used to be exactly the sma e as a PC's except a sworn constable only had to suspect you had committed an arrestable offence a citzent had to know you had committed an arrestable offence i.e. he had to see you do it. Any more recenmt Plod maybe able to up date.

Nutty
 

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