Trouble said:Can someone enlighten me to the expiry dates for the BSSC. I have heard so many different versions, that I have no idea if i'm in date, out of date, need to do an ISSC, BSSC, One day course etc. Help!!! :lol:
WarMonger said:I have been reliably informed by my PSI that BSSC is 3 years. ISSC is 4 years but was my understanding that ISSC was no longer available to RNR and that RNR was BSSC only
trehorn said:WarMonger said:I have been reliably informed by my PSI that BSSC is 3 years. ISSC is 4 years but was my understanding that ISSC was no longer available to RNR and that RNR was BSSC only
Correct - BSSC 3 years. RNR no longer do ISSC because we can never remember the basics let alone the intermediate aspects of fire fighting.
mazza_magoo said:trehorn said:WarMonger said:I have been reliably informed by my PSI that BSSC is 3 years. ISSC is 4 years but was my understanding that ISSC was no longer available to RNR and that RNR was BSSC only
Correct - BSSC 3 years. RNR no longer do ISSC because we can never remember the basics let alone the intermediate aspects of fire fighting.
you may find one or two members on here that disagree with your sweeping statement trehorn, or are you just refering to members of ceres :lol: :wink: 8O
Perhaps they have the equipment in sherwood, i know the only thing we dont have at our unit for fire fighting is a ship to do it in! if the equipment needed is not there perhaps you should speak to your nbcdq (if you have one) and try and obtain it through naval stores. ours did.trehorn said:mazza_magoo said:trehorn said:WarMonger said:I have been reliably informed by my PSI that BSSC is 3 years. ISSC is 4 years but was my understanding that ISSC was no longer available to RNR and that RNR was BSSC only
Correct - BSSC 3 years. RNR no longer do ISSC because we can never remember the basics let alone the intermediate aspects of fire fighting.
you may find one or two members on here that disagree with your sweeping statement trehorn, or are you just refering to members of ceres :lol: :wink: 8O
Applologies for the sweeping statement - i just dont think that firefighting training once every three years prepares you properly. I know weekends are arranged in unit but a pair of overalls and anti flash is hardly the same as Fearnought and BA etc.
trehorn said:RNR no longer do ISSC because we can never remember the basics let alone the intermediate aspects of fire fighting.
trehorn said:Perhaps they have the equipment in sherwood, i know the only thing we dont have at our unit for fire fighting is a ship to do it in! if the equipment needed is not there perhaps you should speak to your nbcdq (if you have one) and try and obtain it through naval stores. ours did.
Best of luck in your (potential) quest, to obtain the afrementioned NBCD equipment.
trehorn said:Sherwood borrow it from forward, Ceres borrow it from Sherwood. i still dont see what the problem is with opening the damage control school up for one weekend a year to give us a refresher. One weekend there would be better than ten in unit weekends. Not critisism of the units but it just isnt realistic enough.
Trouble said:Can someone enlighten me to the expiry dates for the BSSC. I have heard so many different versions, that I have no idea if i'm in date, out of date, need to do an ISSC, BSSC, One day course etc. Help!!! :lol:
WarMonger said:trehorn said:RNR no longer do ISSC because we can never remember the basics let alone the intermediate aspects of fire fighting.
Allegedly RNR being excluded from ISSC was a reaction to a number of RNR attending the ISSC and making complete twats of themselves...I can vouch for this on the basis that the particular twats in question were unfortunately oppos of mine at the time....thankfully these particular idiots no longer grace out midst.
WarMonger said:I wont give away too much but not an ex matelot and 14 years.!!
I do not claim to be proficient either thats a dangerous statement to make unless you been gased, drowned and set alight on a regular basis. However I took a different approach during my time to some of my colleagues as described before (thankfully these particular idiots no longer grace out midst) and chose my ORT based on ships on COST rather than BBQing and RFA's in the West Indies.
To quote from the Cruel Sea..."Lots of Practice lovely lovely practice"
trehorn said:WarMonger said:I have been reliably informed by my PSI that BSSC is 3 years. ISSC is 4 years but was my understanding that ISSC was no longer available to RNR and that RNR was BSSC only
Correct - BSSC 3 years. RNR no longer do ISSC because we can never remember the basics let alone the intermediate aspects of fire fighting.
Old_Hand said:trehorn said:WarMonger said:I have been reliably informed by my PSI that BSSC is 3 years. ISSC is 4 years but was my understanding that ISSC was no longer available to RNR and that RNR was BSSC only
Correct - BSSC 3 years. RNR no longer do ISSC because we can never remember the basics let alone the intermediate aspects of fire fighting.
I think you will find that the main reason that RNR no longer undertake a ISSC is because there is no way a CO on board ship will allow an RNR rating to take charge of a FFP whilst on their annual 2 weekly jaunt.
WarMonger said:Old_Hand said:trehorn said:WarMonger said:I have been reliably informed by my PSI that BSSC is 3 years. ISSC is 4 years but was my understanding that ISSC was no longer available to RNR and that RNR was BSSC only
Correct - BSSC 3 years. RNR no longer do ISSC because we can never remember the basics let alone the intermediate aspects of fire fighting.
I think you will find that the main reason that RNR no longer undertake a ISSC is because there is no way a CO on board ship will allow an RNR rating to take charge of a FFP whilst on their annual 2 weekly jaunt.
One of the reasons that ISSC was stopped for RNR's was due a number of RNR's that tried doing their ISSC and let them selves down badly...making the RNR look lik a monkey f**king a football...I personally knew at least two RNR ratings that were ditched off the course due to their ineptitude....nothing to do with CO's of ships...I for one have been fully integrated within shipboard NBCD incl firefighting...during both exercises and for real....at the end of the day it all comes down to experience and being able to show that you can do the job!!
I do feel agreived that I am now limited to BSSC as a result when I could gain more training value from an ISSC course...two of which I have completed without any snags..!!
Hey ho but thats the RN when it comes to training TAR us all based on a minority of halfwits!!
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