BSSC

Trouble

Midshipman
Can someone enlighten me to the expiry dates for the BSSC. I have heard so many different versions, that I have no idea if i'm in date, out of date, need to do an ISSC, BSSC, One day course etc. Help!!! :lol:
 

WarMonger

War Hero
I have been reliably informed by my PSI that BSSC is 3 years. ISSC is 4 years but was my understanding that ISSC was no longer available to RNR and that RNR was BSSC only
 
Trouble said:
Can someone enlighten me to the expiry dates for the BSSC. I have heard so many different versions, that I have no idea if i'm in date, out of date, need to do an ISSC, BSSC, One day course etc. Help!!! :lol:

Look at the latest RNTM (annual) or Phone Phoenix booking office.
 

trehorn

War Hero
WarMonger said:
I have been reliably informed by my PSI that BSSC is 3 years. ISSC is 4 years but was my understanding that ISSC was no longer available to RNR and that RNR was BSSC only

Correct - BSSC 3 years. RNR no longer do ISSC because we can never remember the basics let alone the intermediate aspects of fire fighting.
 

mazza_magoo

Lantern Swinger
trehorn said:
WarMonger said:
I have been reliably informed by my PSI that BSSC is 3 years. ISSC is 4 years but was my understanding that ISSC was no longer available to RNR and that RNR was BSSC only

Correct - BSSC 3 years. RNR no longer do ISSC because we can never remember the basics let alone the intermediate aspects of fire fighting.

you may find one or two members on here that disagree with your sweeping statement trehorn, or are you just refering to members of ceres :lol: :wink: 8O
 

trehorn

War Hero
mazza_magoo said:
trehorn said:
WarMonger said:
I have been reliably informed by my PSI that BSSC is 3 years. ISSC is 4 years but was my understanding that ISSC was no longer available to RNR and that RNR was BSSC only

Correct - BSSC 3 years. RNR no longer do ISSC because we can never remember the basics let alone the intermediate aspects of fire fighting.

you may find one or two members on here that disagree with your sweeping statement trehorn, or are you just refering to members of ceres :lol: :wink: 8O

Applologies for the sweeping statement - i just dont think that firefighting training once every three years prepares you properly. I know weekends are arranged in unit but a pair of overalls and anti flash is hardly the same as Fearnought and BA etc.
 

mazza_magoo

Lantern Swinger
trehorn said:
mazza_magoo said:
trehorn said:
WarMonger said:
I have been reliably informed by my PSI that BSSC is 3 years. ISSC is 4 years but was my understanding that ISSC was no longer available to RNR and that RNR was BSSC only

Correct - BSSC 3 years. RNR no longer do ISSC because we can never remember the basics let alone the intermediate aspects of fire fighting.

you may find one or two members on here that disagree with your sweeping statement trehorn, or are you just refering to members of ceres :lol: :wink: 8O

Applologies for the sweeping statement - i just dont think that firefighting training once every three years prepares you properly. I know weekends are arranged in unit but a pair of overalls and anti flash is hardly the same as Fearnought and BA etc.
Perhaps they have the equipment in sherwood, i know the only thing we dont have at our unit for fire fighting is a ship to do it in! if the equipment needed is not there perhaps you should speak to your nbcdq (if you have one) and try and obtain it through naval stores. ours did.
Best of luck in your (potential) quest, to obtain the afrementioned NBCD equipment.
 

trehorn

War Hero
Perhaps they have the equipment in sherwood, i know the only thing we dont have at our unit for fire fighting is a ship to do it in! if the equipment needed is not there perhaps you should speak to your nbcdq (if you have one) and try and obtain it through naval stores. ours did.
Best of luck in your (potential) quest, to obtain the afrementioned NBCD equipment.[/quote]

Sherwood borrow it from forward, Ceres borrow it from Sherwood. i still dont see what the problem is with opening the damage control school up for one weekend a year to give us a refresher. One weekend there would be better than ten in unit weekends. Not critisism of the units but it just isnt realistic enough.
 

WarMonger

War Hero
trehorn said:
RNR no longer do ISSC because we can never remember the basics let alone the intermediate aspects of fire fighting.

Allegedly RNR being excluded from ISSC was a reaction to a number of RNR attending the ISSC and making complete twats of themselves...I can vouch for this on the basis that the particular twats in question were unfortunately oppos of mine at the time....thankfully these particular idiots no longer grace out midst.

Speak for yourself I have sailed through the ISSC on two seperate occasions. As per usual the minority of numpties in the RNR spoil it for those of us who can step up to the plate when required and give the RN another excuse to exclude us from valuable and challenging training opportunities.!!
 

mazza_magoo

Lantern Swinger
trehorn said:
Perhaps they have the equipment in sherwood, i know the only thing we dont have at our unit for fire fighting is a ship to do it in! if the equipment needed is not there perhaps you should speak to your nbcdq (if you have one) and try and obtain it through naval stores. ours did.
Best of luck in your (potential) quest, to obtain the afrementioned NBCD equipment.

trehorn said:
Sherwood borrow it from forward, Ceres borrow it from Sherwood. i still dont see what the problem is with opening the damage control school up for one weekend a year to give us a refresher. One weekend there would be better than ten in unit weekends. Not critisism of the units but it just isnt realistic enough.

I agree but it may take a little bit longer than one weekend to get everyone through, but the idea is great, but i still think that there is less value in the 'new' environmentally friendly units than there ever was in the old real fire ones we used to use. Another example of health and safety/enviromental interferences i guess
 

trehorn

War Hero
Speak for yourself I have sailed through the ISSC on two seperate occasions. As per usual the minority of numpties in the RNR spoil it for those of us who can step up to the plate when required and give the RN another excuse to exclude us from valuable and challenging training opportunities.!![/quote]

Like i said - Apologies for the asweeping statement. It was actually intended to come accross tongue in cheek - but i guess it didnt.

I personally feel reasonably confident with firefighting to the extent where i am comfortable with a BSSC, but having talked to people who are somewhat longer in the tooth than myself i am informed that they did struggle with the ISSC a little. And this bloke has been in twenty years, been to see many times and is what i would call a very competant RNR member.
Not casting aspersions at all i have spoken to many a salty RNR sea dog who claims to be profficient in their branch - only then to sea them make complete twats of themselves by completely ******* something up.

Just out of interest how long have you been in and are you an ex-matlow?

I tend to keep my head down, listen show a keen interest in whats going on and volunteer for things that arise - but rarely claim that i am proficient. it saves you looking a prick when it goes wrong.

PLEASE NOTE: BEFORE ANYONE STARTS RIPPING MY HEAD OFF, THIS IS HOW I FEEL - NOT ANYONE ELSE. I KNOW THERE ARE PERFECTLY CAPABLE RNR'S OUT THERE WHO WILL CRINGE AT THIS. BUT I HAVE CHANGED BRANCH IN THE LAST 12 MONTHS AND DESPITE BEING IN NEARLY SIX YEARS I STILL DONT FEEL CONFIDENT ENOUGH TO SAY I COULD DO THE JOB AS WELL AS THE RN.

Stand by - incomming.
 

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