BRNC Info?

simonjgriffithshr

Lantern Swinger
Hello everyone!

I've been looking at these forums occassionally for a few months now. Have been quite impressed, and have even stretched to making a couple of (very rare) posts quite recently.

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I passed my AIB in May - with a view to going to university and hopefully being assisted by the Navy. Exams came around and I didn't do as well as perhaps I should have done, so didn't get into my first choice university (Cardiff for Law). I decided that I didn't want to go to university at home (my second choice was Gloucestershire for Sports Education) so in September when I got a call asking for my A Level results I asked if it was possible to swap from the UCE/Bursary list to the NCE list. Not a problem according to the person from the AIB on the phone. It was too late for consideration for November entry, so it would be January at the earliest. Which was good because I was in a plaster-cast as it was thought that I'd broken my scaphoid playing rugby (luckily it later turned out that it hadn't been!).
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Anyway, to the crux of this post! Had a call yesterday (Nov 2nd) morning from the same person at the AIB telling me that I had been selected to start at BRNC on January 2nd as a Naval College Entrant in the Warfare Branch. In his style of prompt mailing, the paperwork arrived this morning (Nov 3rd) - I've never seen so much crammed into (two) envelopes! Needless to say I was very happy to have everything sorted and in place (provided that in updating it, I don't tick the 'yes I have been involved in terrorist activities' box on the security clearance form :? ). I was also happy that I had got into the first available entry.

So, all this paper! Very interesting reading, and there was certainly more info than on the BRNC web-site! But... Despite all of the literature, it still doesn't give a 'feeling' for the time at BRNC. I now know that my sports jacket should have vents and I'll need a fountain pen (plus lots of more useful stuff), but I don't know what it'll actually be like! Hard work, long days - obviously. But what sort of mixes - does training continue at weekends or is that used for private study and activity?

With no specifics in mind, can anyone who has been through or worked at BRNC or known anyone (well) who has been through BRNC that can give me anything on it, it would be much appreciated. Any little tidbits would be fantastic (in fact, the little nuances would be good to know, as they tend to give a real feel for a place).

Thanks in advance,
Simon
 

yorkie-s

Badgeman
They will brain wash you any way into thinking anybody who didnt start their naval career at dartmouth is a piece of turd who cant find their punctuation buttons any way so who cares if you know which ffffork to use
 

SILVER_FOX

War Hero
Ignore Yorkie-s. He obviously has a beef with the system.

Be prepared for long days initially; they won't seem so bad once you get into a routine. Your first weeks will pass like a blur as you are swept along through the initial admin process; your first term is generally designed to act as an induction into the Navy. You will learn all the basics whilst working towards appropriate levels in various military and academic skills.

There will be free periods - use them wisely. These are all about planning your day. Instead of sitting chatting - sitting chatting whilst doing shoes for next day is better, etc. You'll understand this once you realise that there are only a few hours in a day of prep time. Laundry facilities exist and are good so you won't have to do your own.

Get fit, if you aren't already. Find a pair of psychological blinkers as much of what you go through may not make sense but is designed overall to build leadership, command and team membership skills, etc and it always makes sense to the staff who will be assessing you as you go along. Bitching about stuff will get noticed hence the blinkers - remind yourself that you are at point A and need to get through to point B. Follow the route given to you and everything will be fine.

The college runs along academic lines - there is a fair academic faculty (some good and some not so), a good library, reasonable IT suite, pool, multi-gym and large gymnasium, excellent food, and lots of other interesting facilities too. Learning to find your way around will be the first hurdle to climb.

Naturally there will be organised sport, marching, messing about on the river in boats (great fun) to go along with the academics. Brush up on your math and English skills (if you need to), read a little general naval and military history but concentrate on the last 200 years. Remember there are lessons to be learned from key Army figures too.

Maybe one of the recent entrants can provide a little more up-to-date information on this.

Good luck - you will enjoy it.

SF
 
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Guest
Any leadership type course will involve something along the lines of a 15 minute presentation on anything of your choice, it's just to see if you have the initiative and means for public affairs etc

Every one will become nervous, it's just a natural reaction but don't worry; if you are cut out for this role then it will happen.

Good luck and keep us posted!
 

silverfox

War Hero
Moderator
Book Reviewer
Your time at BRNC will consist of 6x7 week phases.

Phase 1 - New Entry training - this is the no leave, getting up early, getting fit, living in mess general navalisation stuff. Also first stage in leaderhsip training which culminates in big test on Dartmoor.

Phase 2 - slightly better accom, different uniform, prpearing for Initial Sea Training so more emphasis on professional training such as navigation etc. Night leave but no weekend leave.

Phase 3 - Initial Sea Training. Embarked in a ship with your class - live and work alongside Junior Rates in an attempt to understand what makes them and the ship tick - most valuable and make the most of it.

Phase 4 & 5. Now you are a senior - single cabins, wear rank with uniform, live in Senior Gunroom (v nice) and work consists of academic studies. You will also be involved in the training of the juniors and can have weekend leave when not required for duty.

Phase 6. Passing out phase. Emphasis now firmly back to Naval training, includes Divisional Offiers Course, Operational Planning training and culminates in final (pass or fail) leadership exercise which takes place on and around (or sometimes even in) River Dart.

Lfe at the College is totaly bewildering at times as we have so little time to cram so much in. It is also not the real navy so some of the things will have apperently zero relevance - trust the staff - when you get to sea you will understand why they make you do the things they did!! There is not the luxury of time to bugger people about for the hell of it - although it may not seem that way at the time.

You should have enormous fun, you wil make firends that wil last forever - mine are 24 years old and counting!

They should have sent you a fairly comprehensive book about all this - remember you are all in the same boat (pun intended)

Any furhters q's just shout - have a great time - I was 2 years on the staff and was continually impressed by the way the cadtes (or most of them) grew up in such a short space of time.

best of luck.
 

jeeperz

Midshipman
Above all Maintain your sense of humour We were given this advice at our first talk in the college 41 years ago and it is still valid

Very difficult at times to remember

Always give your maximum effort plus to everything you do

Remember two eyes for observing and evaluating, two ears for listening and understanding and one mouth for speaking

So engage brain before opening mouth
 

jeeperz

Midshipman
Study the art of effective written communication

see this website for the BBC Style Guide

http://www.bbctraining.com/pdfs/newsstyleguide.pdf

also this page with advice from George Orwell

http://www.k-1.com/Orwell/index.cgi/work/essays/language.html

learn to present without the use of visual aids

if you do use visual aids don't subject your audience to either death by powerpoint or death by vufoil

for tips about using powerpoint see this page

http://desktoppub.about.com/od/microsoft/bb/powerpointrules.htm
 

simonjgriffithshr

Lantern Swinger
Thanks guys, plenty of useful information there. Keep it coming if anyone else has anything. :)

jeeperz said:
Above all Maintain your sense of humour
I referee as well as play rugby, so I've had a little practice at this... :D (I was in the awkward postion of refereeing my team at the weekend - in my club's shorts, socks and training top - because no ref turned up, from full-back to referee in one easy step!).
 
silverfox said:
Your time at BRNC will consist of 6x7 week phases.

Phase 1 - New Entry training - this is the no leave, getting up early, getting fit, living in mess general navalisation stuff. Also first stage in leaderhsip training which culminates in big test on Dartmoor.

Phase 2 - slightly better accom, different uniform, prpearing for Initial Sea Training so more emphasis on professional training such as navigation etc. Night leave but no weekend leave.

Phase 3 - Initial Sea Training. Embarked in a ship with your class - live and work alongside Junior Rates in an attempt to understand what makes them and the ship tick - most valuable and make the most of it.

Phase 4 & 5. Now you are a senior - single cabins, wear rank with uniform, live in Senior Gunroom (v nice) and work consists of academic studies. You will also be involved in the training of the juniors and can have weekend leave when not required for duty.

Phase 6. Passing out phase. Emphasis now firmly back to Naval training, includes Divisional Offiers Course, Operational Planning training and culminates in final (pass or fail) leadership exercise which takes place on and around (or sometimes even in) River Dart.

Lfe at the College is totaly bewildering at times as we have so little time to cram so much in. It is also not the real navy so some of the things will have apperently zero relevance - trust the staff - when you get to sea you will understand why they make you do the things they did!! There is not the luxury of time to bugger people about for the hell of it - although it may not seem that way at the time.

You should have enormous fun, you wil make firends that wil last forever - mine are 24 years old and counting!

They should have sent you a fairly comprehensive book about all this - remember you are all in the same boat (pun intended)

Any furhters q's just shout - have a great time - I was 2 years on the staff and was continually impressed by the way the cadtes (or most of them) grew up in such a short space of time.

best of luck.

Sounds as if not that much has changed except the timescale, even if you take the Mids year in the fleet out it took us a full two years to do that. On the endiuring freindship thing we had our 40th reunion 2 years ago and 130 turned up out of about 500 who started as cadets.

Peter
 

SILVER_FOX

War Hero
The fact that you seem to be getting off your arse and researching the matter will stand you in good stead. I'm not convinced that everyone does which is a crime when you consider the quantity of information available on the net these days.

I suspect that if you soak up even half of what is being said here - you are already ahead of the game. jeeperz' comment about a sense of humour is absolutely vital. There will be times when you just don't feel like it but these are probably the most important times to do it and attempt to lift the spirits of those around you. It will get you noticed but don't become the class fool in the process as you don't want to get noticed for the wrong reasons.

SF
 
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