Navy Net - Royal Navy Community

Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

Britain is the most violent nation in Europe!

WreckerL

War Hero
Super Moderator
Apart from it being in the scum and scaremongering, the last paragraph holds the key. Different countries have different reporting systems and categorise what constitutes "violent" crime. The way it's reported immediately conjures up images of knife crime, battered and bruised bodies etc etc which MAY not neccesarily be the case.
 

YouAreHavingALaugh

Lantern Swinger
WreckerL said:
Apart from it being in the scum and scaremongering, the last paragraph holds the key. Different countries have different reporting systems and categorise what constitutes "violent" crime. The way it's reported immediately conjures up images of knife crime, battered and bruised bodies etc etc which MAY not neccesarily be the case.

Other countries have a much better punishment system, not our namby pamby method of punishments and PC gone wrong.

Which the chavs of today know they can use and abuse.

If they do that abroad, they get locked up, end of.

Here they are allowed to build up 100-200 crimes without even being sent to a detention centre because it is not their fault.

Murderers and rapists all let out after 15 or even less years to commit again.

Why do you think that when any so called British citizen is caught and locked up abroad they want to serve their time in our prison system. Not stupid are they!!

I could go on and on.
 
YouAreHavingALaugh said:
WreckerL said:
Apart from it being in the scum and scaremongering, the last paragraph holds the key. Different countries have different reporting systems and categorise what constitutes "violent" crime. The way it's reported immediately conjures up images of knife crime, battered and bruised bodies etc etc which MAY not neccesarily be the case.

Other countries have a much better punishment system, not our namby pamby method of punishments and PC gone wrong.

Which the chavs of today know they can use and abuse.

If they do that abroad, they get locked up, end of.

Here they are allowed to build up 100-200 crimes without even being sent to a detention centre because it is not their fault.

Murderers and rapists all let out after 15 or even less years to commit again.

Why do you think that when any so called British citizen is caught and locked up abroad they want to serve their time in our prison system. Not stupid are they!!

I could go on and on.

Which countries do you mean? Certainly not Germany, the Netherlands or Austria.
 

Scarface2009

Lantern Swinger
i was surprised these eastern european countries were low in crime, i mean places like Bulgaria, those places are rough, Bulgaria featured on ross kemp on gangs
 

WreckerL

War Hero
Super Moderator
Scarface2009 said:
i was surprised these eastern european countries were low in crime, i mean places like Bulgaria, those places are rough, Bulgaria featured on ross kemp on gangs

Ad I said previously, depends how it's reported and what they class as violent crime, and don't forget it's the REPORTED crime that gets logged. Would you complain to the local police in Bulgaria because the local crime lord had smacked you in the mouth, I think not!
 

slim

War Hero
Perhaps if prisons and young offenders institutes were returned from the en-suite hotels that they have become to the spartan conditions that they used to be things may change. At present a spell in the nick is treated by many as a holiday.
 

X.R.D

War Hero
slim said:
Perhaps if prisons and young offenders institutes were returned from the en-suite hotels that they have become to the spartan conditions that they used to be things may change. At present a spell in the nick is treated by many as a holiday.

I'm not being funny but the prisons i've unfortunate enough to have to visit weren't the palacial affairs people seem to think. I never saw T.V's in their cells and just looked bloody depressing!
 
YouAreHavingALaugh said:
WreckerL said:
Apart from it being in the scum and scaremongering, the last paragraph holds the key. Different countries have different reporting systems and categorise what constitutes "violent" crime. The way it's reported immediately conjures up images of knife crime, battered and bruised bodies etc etc which MAY not neccesarily be the case.

Other countries have a much better punishment system, not our namby pamby method of punishments and PC gone wrong.

Which the chavs of today know they can use and abuse.

If they do that abroad, they get locked up, end of.

Here they are allowed to build up 100-200 crimes without even being sent to a detention centre because it is not their fault.

Murderers and rapists all let out after 15 or even less years to commit again.

Why do you think that when any so called British citizen is caught and locked up abroad they want to serve their time in our prison system. Not stupid are they!!

I could go on and on.

Mind you we doi lock up more crims than most of Europe, so perhaps we need to look at your point a little closer.

I think the real trouble is that we as a society let violence work, I know of people who witnessed crimes who would not even give statements because they feared violence, people who were forced to move because of violence and vandalism for reporting a crime. So as a result violence increases because it works.
 

21_Man

War Hero
Scarface2009 said:
i was surprised these eastern european countries were low in crime, i mean places like Bulgaria, those places are rough, Bulgaria featured on ross kemp on gangs

Maybe all their criminals have come to the UK?
 

Scarface2009

Lantern Swinger
21_Man said:
Scarface2009 said:
i was surprised these eastern european countries were low in crime, i mean places like Bulgaria, those places are rough, Bulgaria featured on ross kemp on gangs

Maybe all their criminals have come to the UK?

am not making this up, but i went to Bulgaria in 2007,nice place, but the bulgarians were arragant, looking depressed
 
Or it could be that the rest of Europe have always been telling the truth and we, the British are indeed a bunch of drunken, spiteful, bigoted, insular aggeresive *********.

We don't turn into ******* overnight, the British have been this way since year dot, get over it.

At least we're good at something.
 

WreckerL

War Hero
Super Moderator
Montigny_La_Palisse said:
Or it could be that the rest of Europe have always been telling the truth and we, the British are indeed a bunch of drunken, spiteful, bigoted, insular aggeresive *********.
We don't turn into ******* overnight, the British have been this way since year dot, get over it.

At least we're good at something.

That's how Empires are made 8) 8)
 
Montigny_La_Palisse said:
Or it could be that the rest of Europe have always been telling the truth and we, the British are indeed a bunch of drunken, spiteful, bigoted, insular aggeresive *********.

We don't turn into ******* overnight, the British have been this way since year dot, get over it.

At least we're good at something.

I think you are wrong, it is mainly because for much of my life we have gone down the cheap justyice path, and we are now reaping the rewards big time.

When I was young drunks were rounded up by the plod slammed in the cells overnight weighed off by the magistrate on Monday morning and had their piccy and details in the weekly courts sectiion of your local rag.

Today you have to work really hard to get lifted because processing you is just to much like hard work.

Result towns full of obnoxious drunks every weekend who will be back next weekend because they get away with it. Round them all up every friday/saturday night, issued fixed penalty tickets for £60 take them to the casjh machine to pay up and see how many come back next weekend, do that for a month and the streets will be a lot quieter.

Same applies all through, all to often the CPS will let a violent criminal plead to affray or even BoP instead of going for ABH or GBH which it should have been.

The innocent need to claim back the justice system and make it work for society not the criminals.
 
Fair enough, but I am now 33 and I don't ever remember it any differently. Neither does my 43 year old brother, incidentally he has a 5 inch scar on his cheek from 1983 which proves knife crime wasn't born yesterday. For 20 odd years I have watched us get cnuted in pubs, smash the place up in massive fights and act the same. I've also watched as Brits embarrass us abroad in a wide variety of places with their ignorance, attitude and willingness to get physical.

We have earnt this reputation, and yes I agree our Judical system is all worng, but it doesn't hide the fact that we as a race are, and always have been, *********. History is littered with proof of it, it's just we choose to ignore it.

The only difference is that now we are getting away with it. I for one, despite being a proud Englishman, completely understand why foreigners hate us
 
YouAreHavingALaugh said:
WreckerL said:
Apart from it being in the scum and scaremongering, the last paragraph holds the key. Different countries have different reporting systems and categorise what constitutes "violent" crime. The way it's reported immediately conjures up images of knife crime, battered and bruised bodies etc etc which MAY not neccesarily be the case.

Other countries have a much better punishment system, not our namby pamby method of punishments and PC gone wrong.

Which the chavs of today know they can use and abuse.

If they do that abroad, they get locked up, end of.

Here they are allowed to build up 100-200 crimes without even being sent to a detention centre because it is not their fault.

Murderers and rapists all let out after 15 or even less years to commit again.

Why do you think that when any so called British citizen is caught and locked up abroad they want to serve their time in our prison system. Not stupid are they!!

I could go on and on.

Meanwhile down in New Zealand

A prisoner who took part in beating a police officer who had been lured into the cells at Pukekohe District Court before escaping, has won a reduction in his sentence.

Koinaki Grant had been given two years and 10 months jail in Manukau District Court after admitting one count of aggravated injury and one of escaping lawful custody.

Judge John Clapham ordered a minimum non-parole period of 23 months, but the Court of Appeal has said that was manifestly excessive and reduced it to 17 months. Jodrell Bankers all over the world!!!!
 

flymo

War Hero
X.R.D said:
slim said:
Perhaps if prisons and young offenders institutes were returned from the en-suite hotels that they have become to the spartan conditions that they used to be things may change. At present a spell in the nick is treated by many as a holiday.

I'm not being funny but the prisons i've unfortunate enough to have to visit weren't the palacial affairs people seem to think. I never saw T.V's in their cells and just looked bloody depressing!

The prison in Jersey is called the La Moye - known locally as La Moye Hilton. Individual cells, TVs, gaming consoles ...deterrent? I don't think so.
 
Thread starter Similar threads Forum Replies Date
MoD_RSS Avian Influenza incursion risk raised to high in Great Britain MoD News 0
soleil Channel 5: On Board Britain's Nuclear Submarine: Trident - Wednesday, November 4th 2020 - 9 PM Submariners 25
MoD_RSS 4,500 new Work Coaches to join the frontline to help Britain build back better MoD News 0
MoD_RSS New 'Diversity Built Britain' coin unveiled MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Matt Warman’s Keynote Speech at Connected Britain 2020 MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Hundreds step up to help smaller employers Kickstart Britain’s recovery MoD News 0
soleil BBC4 - Wednesday, September 16th 2020 - 9 pm - Britain's Greatest Pilot: The Extraordinary Story of Captain Winkle Brown The Fleet Air Arm 2
MoD_RSS RAF looks to the future on Battle of Britain Day MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Prevalence of graffiti on Britain’s rail network: letter to Network Rail MoD News 0
MoD_RSS International regulatory cooperation for a global Britain MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Britain’s pension schemes lead on climate risk MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Britain eats out to help out – over 35 million meals claimed in first two weeks MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Traffic Commissioners for Great Britain publish 2019-20 annual report MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Home Secretary signals Britain is open for business MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Outside the EU, a bright future awaits Britain MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Rishi's Plan for Jobs will help Britain bounce back MoD News 0
MoD_RSS £1.57 billion investment to protect Britain’s world-class cultural, arts and heritage institutions MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Global Britain and the CPTPP MoD News 0
MoD_RSS PM: A New Deal for Britain MoD News 0
MoD_RSS ‘Build build build’: Prime Minister announces New Deal for Britain MoD News 0
MoD_RSS New plans to get Britain building in coronavirus recovery MoD News 0
D 801(FF) Squadron and the Battle of Britain???? History 40
MoD_RSS Business Secretary launches working groups to help unleash Britain's growth potential MoD News 0
MoD_RSS UK Government and Prince of Wales urge workers to pick fruit and veg for Britain MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Government guidance to help Britain's top sportsmen and women to return to training safely MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Britain’s biggest road project opens to traffic eight months early MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Government to safeguard vital Great Britain-Northern Ireland air links MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Britain’s biggest network of diagnostic labs are completed in 5 weeks MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Biking for Britain MoD News 0
soleil FB: RNRMC - Happy 100th Birthday Harry Melling - Britain's Oldest WW2 Submariner Submariners 2
MoD_RSS Robert Jenrick plans for the future to get Britain building MoD News 0
MoD_RSS New era of green fuel set to clean up Britain’s roads MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Britain is back: Liz Truss calls for new rules at WTO to tackle unfair trade practices MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Foreign Secretary's first Gulf visit to showcase Britain's strengths MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Rail stations across Great Britain receive £20 million funding boost for accessibility improvements MoD News 0
MoD_RSS PM outlines new review to define Britain’s place in the world MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Our message to the world: Britain is open for business MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Britain's jobs boom continues as wages rise MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Spring opening for Britain’s biggest road project MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Britain’s first all-electric bus town to pave the way for green communities of the future MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Bold new beginning for Global Britain MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Britain set for post-Brexit education revolution MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Vital Industries to benefit from post-Brexit Britain MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Measures to make Britain's power network more resilient planned, after August power outage MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Global Britain to attract more top scientists with fast tracked entry MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Traffic Commissioners for Great Britain publish 2018-19 annual report MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Building a Stronger Britain Together boosts community resilience MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Highways England statement following publication of DfT’s Reported road casualties in Great Britain: 2018 report MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Great Britain and China Are Global Partners MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Global Britain is leading the world as a force for good: article by Dominic Raab MoD News 0
Similar threads


















































Top