Nice of you to drop by and well observed.As we all know; the referendum vote took place in 2016.
Yeah. Yeah, it does. I know you don't like to lie down with the dogs who have fleas but voting to leave makes you a Brexiter. See, a binary referendum has that effect. You're in (Remoaner, or whatever) or out (a Brexiter) And the current situation is your choice, not mine. So have some responsibility and own it, eh?I personally voted 'To leave the European Union'. This does not make me a Brexiteer or any other such name that anyone wishes to label me with. It simply means that I put my cross against that choice as opposed to the other choice which was 'Remain a member or the European Union'.
You are doing well with this, aren't you?As we all know the majority of voters went with the same choice as mine.
Okay. But you've kinda not illustrated why your mind was made up, or supplied any informed shape toward what steered your shaky hand toward the 'Out' box. Why not? I mean, the first sentence is more or less self-evident. The second one suggests you shut your mind off to evidence and just put an X in the box, based on …. nothing. Nice one.I believe that various members of parliament and many other high level figures that have the ear of the media spun complete fabricated stories during the election campaign, but I also believe that came from those wishing to remain and also those wishing to leave. Frankly it made no difference to the way that I was going to vote. My mind was made up long ago and no amount of bullshit, statistics, tears, burning bras, threats etc would convince me to vote otherwise.
So what you're saying is 'the vote stood'? Yeah. We get that. Even I get that. I haven't said it any other way.My main point being that the vote took place over two years ago. The time for debate was before the vote and not afterwards and for those that state that many people didn't use their vote and by some strange reason they believe this makes the vote invalid what a crock of crap. If I wanted to remain in the EU or conversely leave the EU then all I had to do was vote. I am not arrogant enough to believe that my vote didn't count or matter.
Well, if you're on here pontificating about Brexit and pressing the 'bullshit' button, it might help if you explained yourself given the current climate juxtaposed with your 'winning vote'. You are accountable, you know. Your vote, accumulated with 17.2m others has made this intractable and difficult situation. It's got everything to do with me, if you think my point of view is bullshit. You should explain yourself, rather than being a bit cowardly and cryptic and not revealing your reasonsLevers keeps pressing for answers as to why people like me made my choice to leave. My response is 'what the f**k has that got to do with you?' I have plenty of good enough reasons to vote the way that I did and you can call me all the names you like but as soon as you started doing that you lost the argument anyway.
That's not quite true, is it? Parliament voted to have the referendum, accept the outcome and execute Article 50 to leave the EU. Miller correctly challenged it in the courts and Carney is the governor of the BoE so can only call it how he sees it. Unless you want him to lie, maybe? You sue you understand what is going on here?Had those in power, the so called 'honourable' Members of Parliament, the Gina Millers of this world, Mark Carney and many other self serving idiots accepted the outcome of the 2016 vote once the result was in then our negotiating hand with the EU would have been so much stronger. Instead Jean-Claude and his merry band of dullards laugh at us and rightly so seeing that despite us wishing to hand democracy back to our UK elected representatives all they can do is squabble like children.
Oh, don't go! You're making such a valuable contribution ...I shall keep an eye on this thread but as it stands I have no further motivation to post on it. Unlike some people I have a day job and plenty of other things to keep me occupied (now where did that Kays catalogue go..!)
Let me try and unravel your mindset there. I'm the arrogant one, yet you are swanning on here saying I voted, I don't have to tell you why, what's it got to do with you and you follow that up with some brainless inaccuracies about the Brexit process and the government. Then, you allude I have some or other contrary value system given our shared employment in the RN (nope, me neither). Then, still desperate to score points, you have a nibble at some ******* gif I have of some ******* dickheaded hip hop bellend on my avatar. Well, you've hit the jackpot there. I feel SO belittled. So I do.All I would ask of 'Levers' is to please re-read some of your posts and ask yourself if you might just come across as a tiny bit arrogant. Some of your posts make me wonder if I served in the same Andrew as you; but then if you aspire to people like the picture in your avatar it tells me all I need to know.
Oh, I thought you'd done ….Last thing and sorry but again it is aimed at Levers
Or maybe you've just confirmed everything the poor, depleted readership of this already knows. You're a bit stupid. A little bit undersubscribed on the old 'able to engage in debate' skills and better suited to pressing the 'bullshit' button and cranking your lever whilst you do it, just 'cos you can.- when I put the shit emoji against your posts in this thread it is because I think you talk shit & it's a lot quicker than having to justify myself to you. So once you break my post down and respond with all your usual diatribe I apologise in advance if I just respond with another emoji.
Like most Brexiteers on here so far, you don't have to justify anything, even your own intelligence, integrity and mentality. Bravo, you.