Borrowing Aircraft ?

#2
The Harrier's primary role is air defence, operating from Royal Navy aircraft carriers. It was instrumental in protecting the Falklands Task Force from serious losses at the hands of the Argentine air force.
The Sea Harrier's primary role was air defence. The Harrier has no credible air defence capability.

The Treasury budget for the carriers only covers the costs of building an empty shell
So a carier with no fixed wing Air is an "empty shell" then?

The RAF is set to abandon its 'spy in the sky' aerial surveillance planes because the U.S. can provide the intelligence material instead. That is likely to mean the cancellation of new Nimrod aircraft
So the US unmanned space vehicles have MAD capability, can provide Sonics, positively identify surface contacts in the dark, move their surveillance focus 500 miles anywhere in just over an hour and attack a threat? Somebody needs to stop watching Star Wars.
 

wave_dodger

MIA
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#4
Passed-over_Loggie said:
The RAF is set to abandon its 'spy in the sky' aerial surveillance planes because the U.S. can provide the intelligence material instead. That is likely to mean the cancellation of new Nimrod aircraft
So the US unmanned space vehicles have MAD capability, can provide Sonics, positively identify surface contacts in the dark, move their surveillance focus 500 miles anywhere in just over an hour and attack a threat? Somebody needs to stop watching Star Wars.
Thats not the capability they mean - they are discussing the R1 from 51Sqn which is a SIGINT platfrom, tbrb the newly purchased RJ's. Sounds like perhaps the purchase of said RJ's is being reconsidered?

We will still maintain, an albeit reduced, MR4A fleet which are the ASW assets you refer to as using MAD.
 
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guestm

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#5
wave_dodger said:
Passed-over_Loggie said:
The RAF is set to abandon its 'spy in the sky' aerial surveillance planes because the U.S. can provide the intelligence material instead. That is likely to mean the cancellation of new Nimrod aircraft
So the US unmanned space vehicles have MAD capability, can provide Sonics, positively identify surface contacts in the dark, move their surveillance focus 500 miles anywhere in just over an hour and attack a threat? Somebody needs to stop watching Star Wars.
Thats not the capability they mean - they are discussing the R1 from 51Sqn which is a SIGINT platfrom, tbrb the newly purchased RJ's. Sounds like perhaps the purchase of said RJ's is being reconsidered?

We will still maintain, an albeit reduced, MR4A fleet which are the ASW assets you refer to as using MAD.
I seriously doubt we'll see the Nimrod ever again. As P.O.L says, this is all speculation, and not particularly clever speculation at that.
 
#6
A mainstay of the Fleet Air Arm since 1960
Hmmm. First Harrier GR1 came into service with the RAF in 1969, first Sea Harrier FRS1 started trials with the Fleet Air Arm in 1979. So not strictly true.

I think Scouse might be able to enlighten us on which aircraft WAS the mainstay of the Fleet Air Arm in the 1960s :)
 
#7
Anyhow, it's not the borrowing of aircraft that concerns me in this story. It's the possibility of giving up our amphibious warfare capability (arguably the best in the world), and selling-out the RM, to fund these big white elephants.
 

Seaweed

War Hero
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#8
Can't see this as much of an aid to recruiting for FAA fixed-wing aircrew.

Just hope this is another of those 'run it up the flagpole and see who salutes' leaks.
 
#10
I think Scouse might be able to enlighten us on which aircraft WAS the mainstay of the Fleet Air Arm in the 1960s :)[/quote]


Ah easy one.

Without any doubt it was the Westland Wasp and was backed up by a cpl of Phantoms and Bucs
 
#11
off_les_aura said:
A mainstay of the Fleet Air Arm since 1960
Hmmm. First Harrier GR1 came into service with the RAF in 1969, first Sea Harrier FRS1 started trials with the Fleet Air Arm in 1979. So not strictly true.

I think Scouse might be able to enlighten us on which aircraft WAS the mainstay of the Fleet Air Arm in the 1960s :)
:lol: :lol: If i must http://usera.imagecave.com/scouse/waistcatlaunch(1).jpg
 
#13
scouse said:
cornishgolfer said:
I think Scouse might be able to enlighten us on which aircraft WAS the mainstay of the Fleet Air Arm in the 1960s :)

Ah easy one.

Without any doubt it was the Westland Wasp and was backed up by a cpl of Phantoms and Bucs
PMSL http://usera.ImageCave.com/scouse/sgwaspas121.jpg before and after http://usera.ImageCave.com/scouse/large191.jpg[/quote]


AS12 missile, what a weapon, our version of the mighty Seacat. And as for Danea's wasp.........oops.................brace brace brace lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnUOu1F-Fvk


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUqR9J4CBWI


Beattie was splot during my time on 829
 
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