Bootnecks and Para Helmets!

I can put rest to this. When our coy (J) took over from the paras at FOB Price we got ordered too as part of a deception plan so the locals down in gereshk wouldn't notice the handover. It didn't really work and i found it a pain in the arse as it got caught on things in the back of the viking and took it off. Oh and the sgt at the start of that video is actually a 2lt.

Your not allowed to use para helmets out there but lads do anyway. Except maybe the paras.
 

agrippa

Badgeman
Mitch said:
Out of interest why would the commanders not want the Afghans to realize there had been a change over?

Same reason as you would see Green lids hanging from trees in XMG when you took over your Banner tour, Locals know the score and always try their best to sh1t you up. To try and show solidarity and continuity would be another reason or so not to show the locals that "new guys" were in town and not to try anything funny.

Much respect for any Royal or Para who has been to the 'Stan.
New men old standards.
 

Mitch

Badgeman
Thanks for the reply. Seems as though they could just log onto MOD website and its posted all over there where different units are headed. That is if the Taliban are as organized as Al Qaeda!
 
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In_my_day

Guest
spenny said:
wet_blobby said:
Are you sure it's Royal and not the Paras?

Definitely Royal mate!!

Ive seen a few lads wearing them recently which is understandable - they are far superior to the MK6. It was more the scrim and rubber band that got me?!?!?!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FcXWZ0XVuw&mode=related&search=

A great bit of footage of Operations in Afghanistan. Look at the RM officer at around 4mins 30 secs for an example of the Para helmet.

Spenny

Helmet recognition is not a hobby of mine but the fastening on the helmet above is that of a Mk6/6A.

The para helmet may be more comfortable than the 6A but it does not offer the same ballistic protection (same material but thinner, shaped for parachuting, etc). Surely the latter, as with the Osprey, is the be all and end all of personal protection equipment. Although we read relatively often (see ArRSe) of the superiority of the para helmet are there any instances where an individual can catergorically state that he was not able to .... because he was wearing a Mk 6A? Obviously I would expect a particular section of the "community" to have strong views but what about anyone else? If there are instances, is it not an indication that the shape rather than weight /protection of the Mk6A needs to be looked at?

Saw some more video of a J Coy op recently, equally impressive. Well done.

IMD
 

maindog

Midshipman
As a former RM - not wishing to Hi-jack the thread by any means - but the whole helmet issue should be reviewed by the RM. There has NEVER been a suitable helmet for the RM on general issue - call me 'picky' but there has been ample opportunity since 1664 for this to be addressed - can't what was once called Log Ops do something - or are they all civvies too these days
 

Guyver

Midshipman
Does anyone else here think that the shape of both helmets - or maybe more the positioning on the head - leaves the forehead kind of exposed ?

I don't think anybody expects sniper-level precision from guys with AK-47's but I'm just saying...
 
Guyver said:
Does anyone else here think that the shape of both helmets - or maybe more the positioning on the head - leaves the forehead kind of exposed ?

I don't think anybody expects sniper-level precision from guys with AK-47's but I'm just saying...

I dont know if youve ever fired an SA80 wearing a MK6 or a Para helmet mate, but in all honesty if the front of the lid was any lower it would seriously affect your shooting capability. Have a look at a MK6 the next time you get a chance - you will see that many have a worn area on the front right hand side of the rim. This is caused by the SUSAT rubbing when you take aim. If it was even lower it would seriously restrict your vision, especially when in the prone position.

You have to balance the amount of protection it offers with your ability to fight. Its the same argument as with body armour (sorry I cant remember the names of) - the type that covers your centre mass, therefore protecting your vital organs or the type that has a nigh neck guard, groin attachment etc. Extra protection YES, ability to move quickly and fight as effectively NO.
 

super-boots

Badgeman
its about time the people upstairs listened to royal and asked what is needed and how things can be improved instead of letting pongo have the last say! :thumright:
 
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