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Body armour

seafarer1939

War Hero
My question is:does an AK47 round go thru body armour?I thought[but don't know] that Kevlar stopped rifle rounds.
I have certainly seen the USA testing such armour against rifle rounds.


Also what is the baccy that the American[and oil riggers] chew? I seem to see them all putting baccy pills in the mouth then spitting in bottles.!anyone tried it?
I know when I left school and went down the pits a lot of the pitmen used chewing baccy as there was no smoking,tried it and it was foul tasting and nearly burnt my mouth away,can't be the same stuff,got an answer to these questions?Cheers
 

all_purple_now

Lantern Swinger
seafarer1939 said:
Also what is the baccy that the American[and oil riggers] chew? I seem to see them all putting baccy pills in the mouth then spitting in bottles.!anyone tried it?
I know when I left school and went down the pits a lot of the pitmen used chewing baccy as there was no smoking,tried it and it was foul tasting and nearly burnt my mouth away,can't be the same stuff,got an answer to these questions?Cheers

It will be. Red Man?

I used to work with a bloke who chewed betel nut, and had black teeth as a result. Nice.

Edit - both are pretty good ways of increasing your chance of getting oral cancer, which is something you really don't want.

APN
 

Yorkie_S/M

Lantern Swinger
Have chewed baccy and taken snuff, baccy gives you the nicotine fix as does snuff to a lesser extent. The Americans and Canadians have this block which is a mixture of dried fruit (apple, raisins apricots etc) with tobacco. this tastes so nice that you you forget it's baccy and swallow the juice which makes you spew your ring up.
 

ramboto

Newbie
If you got a lemon KEVLAR then that's it ..... :lol: .... But in due time I think this doubts can be addressed by technology...
 
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In_my_day

Guest
The way body armour works is open source (google search "body armour uk", 3m hits in 0.35 secs!) although I agree that discussing the details of in-service kit is unacceptable. Body armour consists of an outer cover, the filler (inner) and inserts. These are rated according to set standards; HOSDB (formerly PSDB) set those in the in UK. In general terms fillers will stop LV rounds and rarely full power HV rounds and the plates stop various rounds; both of these depend on composition and thickness.

The septics often use "dip" rather than chewing baccy. They stick a wad in the teeth and gum and then proceed to salivate like a paedo at a maddy lookalike competition!

IMD
 
What the Americans use is called chewing tobacco or dip. Chewing tobac is chewed and dip, the pill, is put between your cheek and gum and suck on it to get the juice out. Hope that helps.
 

code137

Midshipman
The yanks use something called Dip
The two brands favoured by the marines im working with is Kodeak and copenburge,
Kodeak is a short cut and sometimes called snuff
Copenburge is a longer cut both are flavoured with winter green
both are placed inside the lip and they use bottles to spit into.
both will course your teeth to fall out and cancer of the mouth all printed in large letter on the case... so good stuff
In europe the brand is Skol bandits same stuff same result
if any one want some give me a shout and i ll get some from the NEX its about 5 Dollars a tub

me i want to keep my teeth as long as poss

The new body armour is called dragon skin and it can stop a AK47 round
but we won't see it becouse it cost an arm and a leg
 

seafarer1939

War Hero
thanks for the baccy replies I'll keep off it!

I have no wish to dwell on operational armour requirements except in the local boozer it was noted that one one brave soldier died last week after being shot in the chest.
Pub discussion thought body armour protected the chest,I said I don't know but I'll ask.
I never thought about this being an operational question so just ignore it and I and the pub know- alls will have to shut up.Sorry!
 
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