'Tis a while since I left the mob but as the RNA says, once navy always navy. Seems odd but some of the old pussers sayings that were used regularly in the mob without any concious understanding of why and where they came from sometimes come to mind as to how and why. The one I've thought about recently is black cat like I've gotta blacker cat than you. Question, is it black cat or black hat? It makes more sense to say blacker hat from the days when jack wore black hats for winter rig so if I say I've gotta blacker hat than you well bobs yer uncle sort o' thing. So here we go is it cat, hat or even cap. Cant see any connection with cat but I can see how the word hat could become cat. :?