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Billy Q

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Admirals Lane-Nott, Heaslip, Jenkin, Blackham together with Generals Thompson, Riley, Rose, Hunt and Vaux assert that" Our forces would be stronger outside EU".

Just MLP , our one-time Armchair WAFU Warrior-now defending us elswhere-thinks otherwise.

Wonder who's right and knows best?
 

dapperdunn

War Hero
Book Reviewer
Why should we believe them any more than anyone else? For example, much as I admire the man, Julian Thompson has been retired for 30 years.
I'm with Ninja :)
 
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Billy Q

Guest
Why should we believe them any more than anyone else? For example, much as I admire the man, Julian Thompson has been retired for 30 years.
I'm with Ninja :)

Try this.

6.45pm for 7pm
Leaving the EU The spark we need to re-energise our nation

With the Speakers:-

The Rt Hon. Lord Owen
SDP Founder and former Foreign Secretary.

Lord Owen said leaving "could be the spark we need to re-energise our nation: a challenge and an opportunity".

Andrew Rosindell MP
Member of Parliament for Romford.

Andrew will discuss the constitutional implications of the EU, and the effect of leaving on our economy and foreign policy.


& David Nuttall MP
Chairman of the Parliamentary Better Off Out group.

David Nuttall will talk on The UK and the EU - the future.


ADMISSION:
£10 payable on the door or in advance
Including wine, orange juice, mineral water and nibbles

To purchase your ticket visit:
www.brugesgroup.com/events
Or call Robert Oulds on 020 7287 4414
or reply to this e-mail

Alternatively, click here for a form to book your place


AGENDA:
Lectures: 7pm – 8pm
Discussion: 8pm – 8.30pm
Wine and refreshments: 8.30pm – 10pm

LOCATION:
Princess Alexandra Hall, Royal Over-Seas League
Over-Seas House, 6 Park Place, St James’s Street
London SW1A 1LR




























 

dapperdunn

War Hero
Book Reviewer
Try this.

6.45pm for 7pm
Leaving the EU The spark we need to re-energise our nation

With the Speakers:-

The Rt Hon. Lord Owen
SDP Founder and former Foreign Secretary.

Lord Owen said leaving "could be the spark we need to re-energise our nation: a challenge and an opportunity".

Andrew Rosindell MP
Member of Parliament for Romford.

Andrew will discuss the constitutional implications of the EU, and the effect of leaving on our economy and foreign policy.


& David Nuttall MP
Chairman of the Parliamentary Better Off Out group.

David Nuttall will talk on The UK and the EU - the future.


ADMISSION:
£10 payable on the door or in advance
Including wine, orange juice, mineral water and nibbles

To purchase your ticket visit:
www.brugesgroup.com/events
Or call Robert Oulds on 020 7287 4414
or reply to this e-mail

Alternatively, click here for a form to book your place


AGENDA:
Lectures: 7pm – 8pm
Discussion: 8pm – 8.30pm
Wine and refreshments: 8.30pm – 10pm

LOCATION:
Princess Alexandra Hall, Royal Over-Seas League
Over-Seas House, 6 Park Place, St James’s Street
London SW1A 1LR


What has that got to do with your OP?

I'm getting tired of asking that question.
 

dapperdunn

War Hero
Book Reviewer
A quote from a Sky news editorial:
'But as with everything in the referendum debate, it's easy to use the same facts to present different arguments.'
No more needs to be said really.

Not sure why this needs it's own thread as there is one already running on this topic.
 
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guestm

Guest
Admirals Lane-Nott, Heaslip, Jenkin, Blackham together with Generals Thompson, Riley, Rose, Hunt and Vaux assert that" Our forces would be stronger outside EU".

Just MLP , our one-time Armchair WAFU Warrior-now defending us elswhere-thinks otherwise.

Wonder who's right and knows best?


Me.
 

Ballistic

War Hero
Even better, HMS Duncan is only 7.4 km away right now.
A feedring full of HE, boom, job done :D

Oh, hang on. Gunex postponed, Cameron's in Japan - just out of range :oops:
 
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Billy Q

Guest
Why should we believe them any more than anyone else? For example, much as I admire the man, Julian Thompson has been retired for 30 years.
I'm with Ninja :)
And how long with your up-to-date wisdom have you been retired. If you're still serving--your days will shortly be ending.
 
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Billy Q

Guest

My wife tells me that at a wardroom "do" she attended at Culdrose a few years back
MLP wasn't mentioned approvingly
Yet he was an important Helicopter something or other Controller. Those overweight Li-Lo
"Floaters" had much to thank him for sending a fantastically expensive Chopper from Culdrose with an equally expensive crew out to rescue them --- him or her
 
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guestm

Guest
My wife tells me that at a wardroom "do" she attended at Culdrose a few years back
MLP wasn't mentioned approvingly
Yet he was an important Helicopter something or other Controller. Those overweight Li-Lo
"Floaters" had much to thank him for sending a fantastically expensive Chopper from Culdrose with an equally expensive crew out to rescue them --- him or her

Of course.

My internet pseudonym is always a hot topic of conversation at these functions. I believe it's often an agenda point for the ADS.

It must have been a pair of decades ago too, seeing that 'Helicopter Controllers' became defunct in the early 90's.
 
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oakum

Midshipman
Of course many of these sprogs will have no idea what it was like before we joined the EU......bless em and they are scared that our proud nation cannot stand on its own feet, well it has and can again ye of little faith, why do you doubt?
 
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Billy Q

Guest
Of course many of these sprogs will have no idea what it was like before we joined the EU......bless em and they are scared that our proud nation cannot stand on its own feet, well it has and can again ye of little faith, why do you doubt?
I found a slight antedating of the "baby" sense ofsprogin a New Zealand newspaper (Evening Post, Volume CXXXVIII, Issue 121, 18 November 1944, Page 6) that also shows the naval "new recruit" sense:


Been in the P/T navy for a couple of Dog Watches? P/T Purple Twiglet?
Well at least for the First part of the Dog Watch. --Though that's debateable.
 

WreckerL

War Hero
Super Moderator
Where does it say P\T Navy in that article, and out of interest, how long did you serve Billy Q?
 

wave_dodger

MIA
Book Reviewer
Admirals Lane-Nott, Heaslip, Jenkin, Blackham together with Generals Thompson, Riley, Rose, Hunt and Vaux assert that" Our forces would be stronger outside EU".

Just MLP , our one-time Armchair WAFU Warrior-now defending us elswhere-thinks otherwise.

Wonder who's right and knows best?

They've made assertions not backed up by any evidence! We can all do that from the safety of our retirements.

So lets think about this, Op SOPHIA currently running in the Med who is leading that....Ah, EUNAVFOR. Lets think about piracy in the Indian Ocean, who ran that...ah, EUNAVFOR. To my mind there is a pattern here.

Did we worry about lack of sovereign control? Did the nasty Germans and French try to steal our ships? No

So we can see some positive evidence to work within an EU construct, what are the reasons not to?
 
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