Being watched....


Lantern Swinger
Daily Orders for HMS EXCELLENT point out that taking part in unofficial Naval forums should be approached with care, and that common sense security rules should apply.

They then shoot themselves in the foot by nominating the 1st Lt and one other as "dead and dying bird" points of contact - and out of working hours, any spotting of a dead or dying bird should be reported to the OOD.....can YOU see what will be happening next?

"Sir, sir, there's a sparrow outside my window, and it looks kind of sick. Yes, I know it's 03:00, but it looks sick and cross, and I think it might be about to die. It's looking for an open window in the block Sir."

....cue rushing feet....

"It was there Sir, honest. I've only had a couple of pints Sir, and no, I'm not jerking you around, it was a sickly sparrow, and it flew off as you got here....."
I've been reliably informed that there are a LOT of senior naval officers out there very angry with this site. Be careful, people.

As a related aside, I've often heard it said that top pongo brass from CGS downwards tolerate/monitor and even informally encourage ARRSE. So why a different naval reaction? Compared to ARRSE, this is a positively charming little site (if you don't believe me, just look at some different headings in the NAAFI bar compared to Diamond Lils. An entire discussion about "Bum sex" vs the oh-so-rude "I wanna smoke" thread over here. Hmmmmmm.

So, Sirs, calm down. It's rather nice here.


Fellas, it dead easy. Just keep your username under wraps and the noshers up top won't know who you are.
Arrse has been good for the guys to have a winge and moan at the gezzers up top. Some have not kept there usernames very quiet and have been given a hard time by bosses, but the majority of the guys are totally untracable.
They deserve a hard time if they fu** you about, and lets face it you can't do it in public so underhanded tactics have the day.


War Hero
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Book Reviewer
Follow the rules of common sense.

Watch your personal security, PERSEC, - no names - no pack drill.

Even more so, watch your Operational Security, OPSEC, hopefully no explanation needed here.

Have your say - but don't expect everyone to have the same opinion!

Your senior bods will soon work out that this is a source of information for them about how the 'lower deck' feel, but also how the Wardroom feels also.

Use it as you feel proper, take from it what you want and need, don't abuse it (well not too much, espesh in Dimond Lil's).

If this site is half as successful as the ARRSE site has been (all hail to Good and Bad COs) then you have very little to worry about.

Happy sailing.


Perhaps a little more time reading and understanding is what the boys and girls at the top need to do. I haven't seen too much on any Daily Orders about avoiding PPRUNE, but of course that's mainly for oficers isn't it......?????


Lantern Swinger
At the risk of exposing myself (but then again I doubt if they would remember) I was involved in officially hacking (sorry, read penetration testing) a website which was advertised in OALs! It was an ex-RNC site, with almost no security, to which people (officers) had posted photos, addresses, meetings of clubs, operational information, etc. The site was hosted in the US, and the officer who had requested my action was stunned when I walked in with full membership records on the Monday morning - from S/Lt up to full Admirals......

It's not so much those at the top, it's those that are bubbling under the top who want to make their name by rushing into their office with a "sir, sir, look what I've found, it's disgraceful" attitude.


War Hero
Well, if they try and 'ban' the site you can bet every matelot is going to come and have a luck at what all the fuss is about. That was the way you could always ensure you had all the Ships Company in one part of a port-of-call - designate it off limits.

I'd say sites like Arrse are a great resource for the Forces. While it can encourage rumours etc, myths can be debunked by those in the know.


Just be careful, ensure PERSEC/OPSEC AT ALL TIMES, nothing that will cause harm to the security of the nation and don't denigrate the chain of command.

Don't let this site go the way of Mil Kit Review



Lantern Swinger
Always remember my first foreign commish as an OD in the early '50's and seeing notices in Daily Orders about certain alcoholic beverages be detrimental to your health. So the first thing we did on going ashore was to try them.

So, by warning personnel not to visit this site will probably mean more will want to. Nothing like a curious matelot


Geoffrey :

You said...

I've been reliably informed that there are a LOT of senior naval officers out there very angry with this site. Be careful, people. ]........

Perhaps you might shed some light on why Senior Officers are angry with the site and how this is known ?


War Hero
There is nothing much News of the Screws on this site, nothing to undermine the Service or the Realm and if it ever gets going in the same way that ARRSE has and is I'm sure senior officers will look in, post, absorb, ignore as it suits. They do on ARRSE. The Navy Board have nothing to fear and RR posters should have nothing to fear, especially those with years seniority in civvy street.

An 'old man' said to me once whilst I was in mid rant, 'you sound just like a poster called Seadog on ARRSE'. 'I do what Sir?' in my best poker voice and face. He doesn't suspect but at least he's reading.
Navy1 said:
Geoffrey : Perhaps you might shed some light on why Senior Officers are angry with the site and how this is known ?

In answer to your 2 questions: I have no idea, and I'm not going to tell you!


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