Bandsmen Wearing Commando Beret

#3
You beat me over. :)

Plus:

Did the band wear green lids prior to the Deal bombing?
Due to the time scale of your query (87-08 is my time scale), I have popped the question to the old and bold on another means, I'll get back to you with the answer as soon as they get back to me.


Cheers Ten.
 
#4
The band used to wear the green beret up until around 1991-2.

There is no reason for someone n the Band to complete the AACC, and whoever that was who posted in ARRSE that to get to Sgt in the RM Band is having a farkin great laugh, what a load of bollox!!! No one in the RMBS has attempted or completed the AACC in the last 30 years, there is no need.
If a bandy did pass it. Plenty of other people do it without a real need to so its not that unrealistic that someone could one day get on a course. What shoulder flash would they wear on combats seen as everyone wears *insert arm* commando flashes now. Would they be able to wear Royal Marine commando one?
 

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#5
The band used to wear the green beret up until around 1991-2.

There is no reason for someone n the Band to complete the AACC, and whoever that was who posted in ARRSE that to get to Sgt in the RM Band is having a farkin great laugh, what a load of bollox!!! No one in the RMBS has attempted or completed the AACC in the last 30 years, there is no need.
Jimbo, is it not the case then that ALL bandies used to have to do the commando course? Reason I ask is that I had a cousin who joined (probably 85) and I swear he told me that this was the case.
 
#6
Jimbo, is it not the case then that ALL bandies used to have to do the commando course? Reason I ask is that I had a cousin who joined (probably 85) and I swear he told me that this was the case.
No its not the case, however should they not cut the mustard (musically) apparently they can opt to go into mainstream Cdo training as a consolation. 8O

Maybe your cousin was a triangle biff, thus having to go for the second prize and covered it up by saying ALL the band have to do Commando training? Don't hold it against him the shame must have been horrendous for him.
 
#7
I think I remember hearing (around 1990) that Buglers did Commando Course but Musicians did not. This was the reason that Buglers have a thin red line on their trousers and Musicians have a fat one. Probably got rid of this requirement around the same time they started to let females join maybe?
 
#8
With regard to the flashes, this is an interesting one but I would imagine that they would retain the Band Service flashes with dagger sewn on sleeve as, after all, the green beret is the 'badge' of the Commando and they would still remain part of the Band Service. Plenty have requested to do the course in the past and all have been knocked back, from both sides.
Is the dagger even a recognised badge any more? The red one im talking about I mean booties and RN cdos dont wear it. Seems to be limited to just pongos now, and last year on H14 the brigade banned it going just with the flashes instead.
 
#9
I've seen the dagger still warn by RN Commando's not just on their no 1's either.


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#10
I've seen the dagger still warn by RN Commando's not just on their no 1's either.
I think Danny is referring to the Commando badge worn by the Army, usually red on black, tapered badge on left sleeve. I believe this badge has now been ditched in favour of the "Army Commando" mudguard - My own personal opinion: it looks a bit gash and if I was a Cdo trained rank in the Army I'd be threaders if I had to remove my dagger for this new badge.

Tommo, there is only 2 places a matelot should display a Cdo dagger: On their No 1s if Cdo qualified and on their PCS(MTP) if part of 3 Cdo Bde (With Royal Navy Commando mudguard on the shoulder if qualified)
 

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#11
Bandies doing the Commando course? Jeez they're not even allowed to join up with the rest of the great unwashed incase we corrupt them and they start doing bad things like fart infront of the ladies.

The Lympstone band used to be allowed to wear the green lid until it was pointed out they were'nt entitled to it. This must have been early 90's. I remember one bandy using the green lid as a seat warmer for his push bike as I breezed into CTC for a course just after the order had been given not to wear them. **** I wanted to punch his lights out but never got the chance. As a rule Bandies wear (or wore) the white and red peaked cap. Only once came across a bandy "walting" it up as a commando. That was on HMS Victory. He was giving it large to some girlies (fair enough) bandy shoulder tags and a green lid being the hero. When three off duty real RM commandos (half pissed) rocked up he soon crawled under a rock. If a member of the Royal Marines Band Service wants to wear a beret it's a blue one with red backing for the Globe and buster cap badge.
 
#12
What !! Bandies weren't trained killers ???? Dam' !!! We baby sailors used to tread very carefully around the Bandies during basic training .... ;)
 

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#14
What shoulder flash would they wear on combats seen as everyone wears *insert arm* commando flashes now. Would they be able to wear Royal Marine commando one?
I believe the one you are referring to is the black commando dagger in a green square? This is worn on the right sleeve as a TRF for those serving with commando units. A bit like Pegasus for those who served with 5 Airborne or the screaming budgie for those serving with 16 Air Assault Brigade.

I think Danny is referring to the Commando badge worn by the Army, usually red on black, tapered badge on left sleeve. I believe this badge has now been ditched in favour of the "Army Commando" mudguard
I don't believe it has been ditched to be honest. I've seen guys in FAD (No 2's) with it on their left arm and seen it on plenty of mess kits. Maybe they've just stopped wearing it on normal working dress. I don't really know to be honest.
 

tiddlyoggy

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#15
Maybe your cousin was a triangle biff, thus having to go for the second prize and covered it up by saying ALL the band have to do Commando training? Don't hold it against him the shame must have been horrendous for him.
Haha, cheers TT. I don't think he was a biff, musically I think he was quite gifted, went in as a drummer/bugler. He has, however always considered himself harder than he actually was. We've all met the type, gets involved in a lot of fights; loses a lot of fights!
 

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#16
Out of curiosity; I assume that the bandies of the 80's, as well as their contemporary counterparts, do undertake some form of military skills training? Is their wartime role still that of stretcher bearer/medic?
 
#18
Out of curiosity; I assume that the bandies of the 80's, as well as their contemporary counterparts, do undertake some form of military skills training? Is their wartime role still that of stretcher bearer/medic?
Yes, from talking to a couple on Argus their training was around 15 weeks. On argus their primary role was working in the hospital alongside the nurses as assistants.


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#19
I believe the one you are referring to is the black commando dagger in a green square? This is worn on the right sleeve as a TRF for those serving with commando units. A bit like Pegasus for those who served with 5 Airborne or the screaming budgie for those serving with 16 Air Assault Brigade.
Call me Mr Picky, 3 Cdo Bde badge is now worn left sleeve. No idea why they changed.

I don't believe it has been ditched to be honest. I've seen guys in FAD (No 2's) with it on their left arm and seen it on plenty of mess kits. Maybe they've just stopped wearing it on normal working dress. I don't really know to be honest.
You are correct, I should have specified that the mudguard has replaced the badge only on PCS(MTP)
 
#20
Out of curiosity; I assume that the bandies of the 80's, as well as their contemporary counterparts, do undertake some form of military skills training? Is their wartime role still that of stretcher bearer/medic?

Yes I think you'll find in order for them to carry out rear duties in support of the Bde, they are trained up to the same standards as the RAF Reg and therefore can lace up military style boots and find the NAAFI/Camp shop in pairs unsupervised.:thumbright:
 

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