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Article on HMS Vanguard in the Daily Mail

Joe_Crow

War Hero
Commander Lindsay said:
Out of the entire Armed Forces, there are only ever approximately 160 people who are allowed no communication at all with their families.

Bollocks. He has either lead a very sheltered life as a bomber faggot, or is being deliberately disingenuous for no good reason.
 

Cpt_Black

Lantern Swinger
Joe_Crow said:
Commander Lindsay said:
Out of the entire Armed Forces, there are only ever approximately 160 people who are allowed no communication at all with their families.

Bollocks. He has either lead a very sheltered life as a bomber faggot, or is being deliberately disingenuous for no good reason.

I gather he ment over the entire tour rather than whenever you want (as I first read it)

I can't think of a unit who would do a tour of a few months without having any outgoing contact with the outside world (except perhaps special forces - although would they do a lengthy tour in the same sense?) but I'm sure I'll be corrected quickly.
C
 

YouAreHavingALaugh

Lantern Swinger
That is the perks of having pound signs in your eyes, they took the option to become a sundodger.

Yes I know some had no option, but the majority do it for the money
 

Bawsack

Lantern Swinger
It would be interesting to see if the CO would be willing to Nuke South Africa if the order ever came in. Thats where he and his family are all from!!!
 

Joe_Crow

War Hero
Cpt_Black said:
Joe_Crow said:
Commander Lindsay said:
Out of the entire Armed Forces, there are only ever approximately 160 people who are allowed no communication at all with their families.

Bollocks. He has either lead a very sheltered life as a bomber faggot, or is being deliberately disingenuous for no good reason.

I gather he ment over the entire tour rather than whenever you want (as I first read it)

I can't think of a unit who would do a tour of a few months without having any outgoing contact with the outside world (except perhaps special forces - although would they do a lengthy tour in the same sense?) but I'm sure I'll be corrected quickly.
C

Fleet boats on ops, the poor relatives of the submarine family. Not only is there no outgoing communication, the Familygram scheme (allowing families the chance to send short weekly messages), which bombers have had for many many years, is often not available to SSNs.
 

The_Chief_Wizzum

Midshipman
Faslane naval base on the east coast of Scotland

When did this happen? there was me driving 77 miles each way every day and the damn place was apparently just along the road from me all along! Ha ! more fool the RN for paying all those HTDs.
 
The_Chief_Wizzum said:
Faslane naval base on the east coast of Scotland

When did this happen? there was me driving 77 miles each way every day and the damn place was apparently just along the road from me all along! Ha ! more fool the RN for paying all those HTDs.

Take it easy chief, it was the wail and at least they got the correct country, not that bad really.
 

Cpt_Black

Lantern Swinger
Joe_Crow said:
Cpt_Black said:
Joe_Crow said:
Commander Lindsay said:
Out of the entire Armed Forces, there are only ever approximately 160 people who are allowed no communication at all with their families.

Bollocks. He has either lead a very sheltered life as a bomber faggot, or is being deliberately disingenuous for no good reason.

I gather he ment over the entire tour rather than whenever you want (as I first read it)

I can't think of a unit who would do a tour of a few months without having any outgoing contact with the outside world (except perhaps special forces - although would they do a lengthy tour in the same sense?) but I'm sure I'll be corrected quickly.
C

Fleet boats on ops, the poor relatives of the submarine family. Not only is there no outgoing communication, the Familygram scheme (allowing families the chance to send short weekly messages), which bombers have had for many many years, is often not available to SSNs.

I stand corrected, cheers :)
 

brigham600

War Hero
Well, my son-in-law is a PO Mech on the Vanguard and I do know that my daughter is able to send familygrams regularly, but very rarely receives any from him.
 

witsend

MIA
Book Reviewer
brigham600 said:
Well, my son-in-law is a PO Mech on the Vanguard and I do know that my daughter is able to send familygrams regularly, but very rarely receives any from him.

One way post on a bomber patrol. Many moons ago on my first patrol I recieved grams. 40 or 50 words ( A current queen will have to confirm) a week. Personally, IMHO, no contact is better than reading of the weather is fine, and I miss you!
 
witsend said:
brigham600 said:
Well, my son-in-law is a PO Mech on the Vanguard and I do know that my daughter is able to send familygrams regularly, but very rarely receives any from him.

One way post on a bomber patrol. Many moons ago on my first patrol I recieved grams. 40 or 50 words ( A current queen will have to confirm) a week. Personally, IMHO, no contact is better than reading of the weather is fine, and I miss you!

Having been ever so slightly invilved in getting familygrams for SSNs on Norhter Cruises many many moons ago certainly then they were appreciated by all, though from memory once a month was more like the frequency
 

shaddythers

Badgeman
Joe_Crow said:
Cpt_Black said:
Joe_Crow said:
Commander Lindsay said:
Out of the entire Armed Forces, there are only ever approximately 160 people who are allowed no communication at all with their families.

Bollocks. He has either lead a very sheltered life as a bomber faggot, or is being deliberately disingenuous for no good reason.

I gather he ment over the entire tour rather than whenever you want (as I first read it)

I can't think of a unit who would do a tour of a few months without having any outgoing contact with the outside world (except perhaps special forces - although would they do a lengthy tour in the same sense?) but I'm sure I'll be corrected quickly.
C

Fleet boats on ops, the poor relatives of the submarine family. Not only is there no outgoing communication, the Familygram scheme (allowing families the chance to send short weekly messages), which bombers have had for many many years, is often not available to SSNs.

Not quite true mate. All SSN's have an E Mail capability, and receive 'grams when in area also. E Mail is the bane of the Comms branch!
 

Joe_Crow

War Hero
shaddythers said:
Joe_Crow said:
Cpt_Black said:
Joe_Crow said:
Commander Lindsay said:
Out of the entire Armed Forces, there are only ever approximately 160 people who are allowed no communication at all with their families.

Bollocks. He has either lead a very sheltered life as a bomber faggot, or is being deliberately disingenuous for no good reason.

I gather he ment over the entire tour rather than whenever you want (as I first read it)

I can't think of a unit who would do a tour of a few months without having any outgoing contact with the outside world (except perhaps special forces - although would they do a lengthy tour in the same sense?) but I'm sure I'll be corrected quickly.
C

Fleet boats on ops, the poor relatives of the submarine family. Not only is there no outgoing communication, the Familygram scheme (allowing families the chance to send short weekly messages), which bombers have had for many many years, is often not available to SSNs.

Not quite true mate. All SSN's have an E Mail capability, and receive 'grams when in area also. E Mail is the bane of the Comms branch!

Actually, quite true. When on ops in sensitive areas, there will be no e-mail facility via the normal routes, as to receive, one must send, and an unexplained transmission from an area where there is no shipping will arouse some interest (though you should already know this). Some e-mails have been sent via a slightly different means from that which is normally used, but that would only be used when operationally essential. E-mails which are sent, but not received, will be buffered for a short time only, meaning that families have no way of knowing if those messages ever get through. Additionally, from recent personal experience, not all SSNs receive familygrams when in area.
 

shaddythers

Badgeman
Joe Crow:
Just read over my last post there mate, bad gramar on my part!
I didn't mean we could receive Emails on Ops, obviously not gonna happen!
Every SSN I have been on had Grams in area mate, maybe Janner ratings do it different... :thanks:
 
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