Armed Forces vacancies...

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  1. I recall reading today that the PM claimed that Labour were spending more of defence that ever.... well here is information on vacancy shortfalls in the three services (in percentages!)...

    Commons Hansard: 22 Jan 08, Cols.1833-1834W

    Note the 40% shortfall in AB Seamen!
  2. WTF is a ''Nuclear watchkeeper''....does he tend the jacket spuds on the reacter ??
  3. Perhaps he checks the luminous watches every day and winds them up... ;)
  4. Very Very Very Rich.

    I would hate to think how much these chaps earn, with all the allowences.

    :thumright: :thumright: :thumright:
  5. FlagWagger

    FlagWagger Book Reviewer

    Reactors are never left untended and require 24/7 manning in their control rooms - a nuclear watchkeeper is someone who is qualified (and certified) to do this job. They need to have an understanding of the physics of the reactor, and the effects of the controls for which they have responsibilty. WHy is training so important? - examples of poor nuclear watchkeepers could be found in the control rooms at Three Mile Island and Chernobyl !
  6. On a more serious note, I'm staggered by the shortfall in Foos, even the Pingers. No wonder 801 never stood up - how on earth are we supposed to man up a CVF TAG if we're 50% short of aircrew? When you look at the RN pinch points compared to Perce and the crabs, the RN gaps are mainly in "front-line" operational billets (eg killick seamen), whereas the other two services are (with all due respect to their professions) short of medics and "support" staff.

    Question is - WTF is 2SL doing about it?
  7. Quite a lot - but ultimately it's not just about the money. Imagine you are a Chief (very specialised) and there are only three of you on board, one of you is duty every day (keeping shut down watches and also doing your maintenance), when one of you takes leave that leaves just 2 (so 1 in 2 duties alongside). How long do you put up with that, as I say money only goes so far - we have not got enough people.
  8. But its a huge responsibility. I bet its no where near what civvies at BNFL get for doing a similar job.
  9. Medics are never "front line staff" until you need one (If you ever do, remember where they came in your "front line" pecking order). It's also worth remembering that RN medics deploy to some very "hot" places in support of the Army, particularly in these days of shortages.
  10. Agree absolutely - as I said, no intention to belittle the medics and I'm well aware of what the RN mdeics are doing on the ground.

    The surprising thing is that (according to the MoD figures, so some suspension of disbelief required), there are no shortages of infantry, artillerymen, RAF aircrew - all essentially the front-line roles for those two services, whereas in the mob, there are major shortages in the seaman branch and the WAFU, both arguably what the is there to deliver on a daily basis.

    Which brings us back to what if anything 2SL is doing about it.......
  11. I suspect civvies don't do "a similar job" based shiftworkers operating a fixed reactor at a steady power.....v submariners....hmmm?
  12. FlagWagger

    FlagWagger Book Reviewer

    Not all reactors operate at fixed power, and not all reactors operate continually - the NRU here at Chalk River is one example of such a reactor.
  13. Yes your rcorrect i was being silly. For reason i thaught at Seallafield they had a V boat just sat there. :roll:

    Or perhaps what your trying to tell me is once started they just leave the reactor running on its own.
  14. An 80% shortfall in radiologists in the AMS is worrying, along with 60% drops in key surgical areas. Makes you worry slightly for our lads and lasses on the ground if things ever get hotter than they already are.

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