Are the seniority of the navy all the same

#1
(Speaking about submariners specialisations only)
Almost every person in the navy dreams of commanding their own vessel something which requires years and years of hard work and dedication in service so my question is regarding the perisher course.

Are only warfare officers able to partake in perisher or can any submariner officer go on to be a commander of a submarine? Was reading that majority of French navy CO's were engineers and am trying to find out if there is a general trend in career pipeline of senior officers in the Royal Navy today. Can anyone help me with this?
(Or is it just whoever has done the most backstabbing)
 
#2
Warfare branch only for perisher, there are a few from other branches who have done it but only after they've transferred to warfare branch.
 
#3
Does this mean depending on which specialisation a submariner officer chooses they could have a better or more prosperous career. That doesn't seem very fair on them but I guess that is to do with responsibility - Am I right in thinking the most is warfare and then weapons engineer and then marine engineer?
 
#4
(Speaking about submariners specialisations only)
Almost every person in the navy dreams of commanding their own vessel something which requires years and years of hard work and dedication in service so my question is regarding the perisher course.

Are only warfare officers able to partake in perisher or can any submariner officer go on to be a commander of a submarine? Was reading that majority of French navy CO's were engineers and am trying to find out if there is a general trend in career pipeline of senior officers in the Royal Navy today. Can anyone help me with this?
(Or is it just whoever has done the most backstabbing)
I seem to remember the last RN Commanding Officer of Hermes was an Engineer Captain. She was on her way to India on sale.
 
#6
What class of Submarine was Hermes?
A one dive boat!
Does this mean depending on which specialisation a submariner officer chooses they could have a better or more prosperous career. That doesn't seem very fair on them but I guess that is to do with responsibility - Am I right in thinking the most is warfare and then weapons engineer and then marine engineer?
Whichever role you choose you can have a good career, many warfare officers don't make it past Lt Cdr and only a few get on to perisher, even less pass it.

There are Admirals, Commodores, Captains etc of all branches, some wearing Dolphins, some not.

I don't understand what you mean in the last sentence, if you mean numbers onboard then it's Warfare, ME and then WE.
 
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Seadog

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#7
I seem to remember the last RN Commanding Officer of Hermes was an Engineer Captain. She was on her way to India on sale.
A ship in build, disposal or refit seldom has a Commanding Officer. They have a Senior Naval Officer who need not be one of the Master Race.

Hermes left for India with an IN ship's company and CO.

The SNO of Prince of Wales (not a submarine) in build is an Engineer Captain.
 
#8
I know each have a very high responsibility in their own field but I meant comparing them is that the roles in order of general level of responsibility decreasing from warfare officer to WE then to ME.
Depends on your opinion, as a submarine captain you're responsible for the boat, WE's have the weapons and sonar, ME's the reactor and all mechanical and electric systems.
 
#11
Put it this way:
If it wasn't for the Engineers the Wafare branch wouldn't go anywhere
If it wasn't for WEs then there'd be no Warfare
Now tell me who's most important...............
 
#13
A ship in build, disposal or refit seldom has a Commanding Officer. They have a Senior Naval Officer who need not be one of the Master Race.

Hermes left for India with an IN ship's company and CO.

The SNO of Prince of Wales (not a submarine) in build is an Engineer Captain.
Thanks for putting me right. I should have said the Senior British Officer. The Engineer Captain was the Senior Brit on board.
 

janner

MIA
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#14
Thanks for putting me right. I should have said the Senior British Officer. The Engineer Captain was the Senior Brit on board.
I'm still struggling to see what relevance your posts have to the OP's question on Officers in the Submarine Service.
 

Spare_Rib

Lantern Swinger
#16
Put it this way:
If it wasn't for the Engineers the Wafare branch wouldn't go anywhere
If it wasn't for WEs then there'd be no Warfare
Now tell me who's most important...............
And if it wasn't for the Logs branch none of them would be paid...... :p
 
#19
A ship in build, disposal or refit seldom has a Commanding Officer. They have a Senior Naval Officer who need not be one of the Master Race.

Hermes left for India with an IN ship's company and CO.

The SNO of Prince of Wales (not a submarine) in build is an Engineer Captain.
You were quite right.
The last operational captain that Hermes had was Captain Ken Snow, and as she left for India she was under command of Captain Vinod Pasicha with an 800 strong ships crew
 

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